> retirees bring nothing of real value to the economy. Sure they may not be producing anything, but is there any value to the idea they consumers still? A lot

> retirees bring nothing of real value to the economy. Sure they may not be producing anything, but is there any value to the idea they consumers still? A lot of FIRE philosophy is you work hard so you can earn retirement early too -- people aren't going to work all their lives either, there has to be a light at the end of the tunnel. It is saddening that it may not be the case for many.