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Until people go on a summer holiday this season and fall ill. When people start dying they might ask themselves "why?" and realise that the virus is not actuall

Until people go on a summer holiday this season and fall ill. When people start dying they might ask themselves "why?" and realise that the virus is not actually gone. Just wishful thinking.

usedtoprog 5y ago
Key takeaway is "mask requirement dropped". Everyone should feel free to protect themselves. Just don't mandate that other people do things to protect you.
- floor2 5y ago
  So roughly, everyone should wear bullet proof vests and gas masks, because it's unreasonable to mandate that people not shoot guns into the air or spray mace whenever they want. We have mandates for how wiring and plumbing need to work in private homes, apartments, offices, etc to maintain safety. We have mandates for how fast cars can drive, which lanes they can use, how they need to signal turns to maintain safety. We have mandates for what chemicals farmers can spray on fields and what chemicals factories can dump into sewers. The mask mandate is so utterly trivial compared to everything else in our lives. The airplane also makes you wear a seatbelt, is that a violation of your rights?
  - usedtoprog 5y ago
    If you can tell me under what exact conditions it ends, then we can have a discussion about it. Until then, and in absence of incontrovertible proof that it saves a single life, I'm out.
dreaminvm 5y ago
If not now, then when? UK studies show IFR for COVID for those vaccinated/immunized is now lower than seasonal flu [1]. We never wore masks during the flu and I am not sure why anyone would advocate this continuing. Moreover if someone wants to wear a mask, nothing stops them from doing that, but don't force it on everyone ages 2 and up. https://www.ft.com/content/e26c93a0-90e7-4dec-a796-3e25e94bc59b https://www.ft.com/content/e26c93a0-90e7-4dec-a796-3e25e94bc... [1]
landemva 5y ago
The virus will never be gone. It will continue to mutate in humans and animals and transfer between species. At some point people learn how to get back to life. Others can shut themselves in their house and have everything delivered to quarantine box outside their door.
- 0xdeadb00f 5y ago
  > At some point people learn how to get back to life. So.. What's wrong with living life in masks for the foreseeable future then? Is that not "life" to you? If not then you are seriously privileged and need to realise that.

Until people go on a summer holiday this season and fall ill. When people start dying they might ask themselves "why?" and realise that the virus is not actually gone. Just wishful thinking.

usedtoprog 5y ago

Key takeaway is "mask requirement dropped". Everyone should feel free to protect themselves. Just don't mandate that other people do things to protect you.

floor2 5y ago
So roughly, everyone should wear bullet proof vests and gas masks, because it's unreasonable to mandate that people not shoot guns into the air or spray mace whenever they want. We have mandates for how wiring and plumbing need to work in private homes, apartments, offices, etc to maintain safety. We have mandates for how fast cars can drive, which lanes they can use, how they need to signal turns to maintain safety. We have mandates for what chemicals farmers can spray on fields and what chemicals factories can dump into sewers. The mask mandate is so utterly trivial compared to everything else in our lives. The airplane also makes you wear a seatbelt, is that a violation of your rights?
- usedtoprog 5y ago
  If you can tell me under what exact conditions it ends, then we can have a discussion about it. Until then, and in absence of incontrovertible proof that it saves a single life, I'm out.

dreaminvm 5y ago

If not now, then when? UK studies show IFR for COVID for those vaccinated/immunized is now lower than seasonal flu [1]. We never wore masks during the flu and I am not sure why anyone would advocate this continuing. Moreover if someone wants to wear a mask, nothing stops them from doing that, but don't force it on everyone ages 2 and up. https://www.ft.com/content/e26c93a0-90e7-4dec-a796-3e25e94bc59b https://www.ft.com/content/e26c93a0-90e7-4dec-a796-3e25e94bc... [1]

landemva 5y ago

The virus will never be gone. It will continue to mutate in humans and animals and transfer between species. At some point people learn how to get back to life. Others can shut themselves in their house and have everything delivered to quarantine box outside their door.

0xdeadb00f 5y ago
> At some point people learn how to get back to life. So.. What's wrong with living life in masks for the foreseeable future then? Is that not "life" to you? If not then you are seriously privileged and need to realise that.