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It wouldn’t make much sense for Russia to show their cards and use modern war tech on Ukraine, a country with a (relatively) primitive military. They’re barely

by mcast 5y ago

It wouldn’t make much sense for Russia to show their cards and use modern war tech on Ukraine, a country with a (relatively) primitive military. They’re barely even using fighter jets.

water8 5y ago
Except for the fact that they are https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2022/03/14/us/russia-ukraine-weapons-decoy.amp.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2022/03/14/us/r...
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RobertMiller 5y ago
> They’re barely even using fighter jets. Maybe because they've barely been training those pilots and know the planes would likely be lost if used above Ukraine? Pilots in the Russian Air Force have supposedly been averaging less than 100 flight hours a year, which is next to nothing.
- justsomehnguy 5y ago
  With all their operations in (and supporting) Syria I would doubt the number. It is not the amount of USAF pilots, but should be more than that.
  - RobertMiller 5y ago
    That number supposedly comes from official Russian sources. I say supposedly because I don't understand Russian and have to trust western sources about this, but these numbers have been widely disseminated for years and seem to be broadly treated as credible.
smachiz 5y ago
If you think their strategy is to lull someone else into attacking them, I guess? Occam’s razor is more likely - the west vastly overestimated their capability practically the entirety of the Cold War, and you’re doing it again now.
greedo 5y ago
They are using modern tech, and it's getting wiped out. Their tanks are modern, their artillery is modern, their fighters are modern. And they're all getting wiped out. Tanks being used by Russia in Ukraine: T-72A T-72B3 OBR.2016 T-80BV T-80U T-80BVM T-90A IFVs: BMP2 BMP3 BMD4M SAMs: Tor Buk Pantsir Fighters and Helos: SU-25 SU-30/35 Su-34 Mi-24/35 KA-52 Mi-28 None of this is "monkey model" stuff like the the USSR sent to client states. These are all top of the line. Same with the artillery and missiles used. All the best the Russians have in any decent numbers.

by mcast 5y ago

It wouldn’t make much sense for Russia to show their cards and use modern war tech on Ukraine, a country with a (relatively) primitive military. They’re barely even using fighter jets.

water8 5y ago

Except for the fact that they are https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2022/03/14/us/russia-ukraine-weapons-decoy.amp.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2022/03/14/us/r...

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RobertMiller 5y ago

> They’re barely even using fighter jets. Maybe because they've barely been training those pilots and know the planes would likely be lost if used above Ukraine? Pilots in the Russian Air Force have supposedly been averaging less than 100 flight hours a year, which is next to nothing.

justsomehnguy 5y ago
With all their operations in (and supporting) Syria I would doubt the number. It is not the amount of USAF pilots, but should be more than that.
- RobertMiller 5y ago
  That number supposedly comes from official Russian sources. I say supposedly because I don't understand Russian and have to trust western sources about this, but these numbers have been widely disseminated for years and seem to be broadly treated as credible.

smachiz 5y ago

If you think their strategy is to lull someone else into attacking them, I guess? Occam’s razor is more likely - the west vastly overestimated their capability practically the entirety of the Cold War, and you’re doing it again now.

greedo 5y ago

They are using modern tech, and it's getting wiped out. Their tanks are modern, their artillery is modern, their fighters are modern. And they're all getting wiped out. Tanks being used by Russia in Ukraine: T-72A T-72B3 OBR.2016 T-80BV T-80U T-80BVM T-90A IFVs: BMP2 BMP3 BMD4M SAMs: Tor Buk Pantsir Fighters and Helos: SU-25 SU-30/35 Su-34 Mi-24/35 KA-52 Mi-28 None of this is "monkey model" stuff like the the USSR sent to client states. These are all top of the line. Same with the artillery and missiles used. All the best the Russians have in any decent numbers.