Asking about socialism on HN, you're not going to get great responses. The politics on this site can be pretty gross. I'm also not sure production being sociali

Asking about socialism on HN, you're not going to get great responses. The politics on this site can be pretty gross. I'm also not sure production being socialized really equates to the money-free society you're envisioning but I'll try to respond with my thoughts. 1. Who does the hard/dirty jobs in this society? Farming being one. But also construction, sewage, trash, ad inifitum. I suspect quite a few people would be happy to spend their time farming or construction if they had their druthers. But that aside, you're asking "Without desperation and poverty, who's going to do the dirty work?" I don't do the job I have now because it's the thing I always want to do, but it carries incentives. If a garbage man's schedule was from 5am-9am every day, for example, maybe a lot of people would sign up to be done working that early. But what if you really changed your thinking? What if we didn't need garbage men because we found a way to automate their job? Or because things were set up completely differently and people just bring their own garbage to a collection point in their neighborhood? People are cheaper than developing automation in many sectors. Without perverse economic incentives, how many shit jobs could be done by robots or computers? 2. How are "needs" defined? Everything you listed is a need. Some of those needs could be met without private ownership, as we already have libraries for sharing books / movies / games without needing to buy them. There is no reason you need to own all those things. And the things you do want to own like your mattress, for example, could absolutely be free. Why would somebody hoard them? 3. What are the incentives to advance amd become highly skilled? Take doctors. Doctors are a really poor example. Many doctors go through the process out of a genuine desire to help, only to find themselves kneecapped by debt. They often complain about the need to spend too much of their time dealing with insurance paperwork, and would rather just help people. And while some do it for the prestige and money, and maybe some of those people would go on to other professions, do we really want them? How many other people would love to go to medical school but don't for financial reasons? > Well humans would just have to fundamentally change their nature and learn to live like x. It's not about changing your nature. It's about understanding how much of what you consider "nature" is a learned response to an environment. The entire capitalist structure is artifice; nature doesn't even come close!