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Mick West debunked these to my satisfaction ages ago. The only question I have left is whether the whole thing was a US Navy psyop or whether the navy was just

Mick West debunked these to my satisfaction ages ago. The only question I have left is whether the whole thing was a US Navy psyop or whether the navy was just looking the other way and playing coy when those pilots were creating a retirement career in UFOlogy.

TooKool4This 5y ago
Or if you follow Hanlon's razor, if the Navy is incredibly (scarily) incompetent!
- radicaldreamer 5y ago
  That's a given (see all the ships crashing into other ships in the South Pacific a couple of years ago -- and not noticing for hours!)
- RobertMiller 5y ago
  That is possible, but I think strains credibility. The GOFAST video is egregious, I find it hard to believe nobody in the US Navy was able to calculate the actual [mundane, very... balloon-like] speed of that object using basic trigonometry. I think it's more likely the Navy knew there was nothing actually exotic in that video. The Defense Department described the subject of GOFAST, Gimble and FLIR videos as "UAV, Balloons, and other UAS". 'Balloons'; they know what it is. They're not even lying, they're being coy or misleading.
  - astrange 5y ago
    The Drive thinks they're drone balloons. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40054/adversary-drones-are-spying-on-the-u-s-and-the-pentagon-acts-like-theyre-ufos https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40054/adversary-drones... https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40638/what-we-know-about-the-high-tech-balloons-lingering-off-the-coasts-of-the-u-s-recently https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40638/what-we-know-abo...
- emkoemko 5y ago
  i think they are, there is a video of a "fighter pilot" who does not understand basics of a cameras... he thinks you can't focus on objects at different distances at the same time.... how did he ever get to fly a jet? or parallax i mean he should know how that works
zionic 5y ago
Mick West utterly failed to “debunk” these videos, and actual fighter pilots have debunked his “debunk”. https://youtu.be/ro29w4ESw44 https://youtu.be/ro29w4ESw44
- RobertMiller 5y ago
  Do you happen to have a copy of this supposed debunking debunking that isn't given by Alvin the Chimpmunk? Wtf dude.
  - Workaccount2 5y ago
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tyw4JA00AMc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tyw4JA00AMc Here is the video on the actual fighter pilot's channel
- emkoemko 5y ago
  are you kidding now? that pilot does not even know how cameras work at all and your using him ??? this American pilot does not know how depth of field works... can't even notice in his own video recordings, this beyond funny. He thinks you can't have objects at different distances in focus at the same time ahahaha, does not get how parallax works... gave up after those dumb errors and smug attitude as he was saying such dumb things, i bet he made even more mistakes. is he really a "fighter pilot" or they just not trained to understand their gear?
nabla9 5y ago
People read "Navy confirms authenticity of the video" as "This is important and Navy can't explain it." (if they try). Only thing Navy does it confirms that the video is real. They don't say that they have even tried to identify or that there is any reason to identify. They have hundreds or thousands of hours of video or radar images of drones etc. they don't care to identify. Navy does not engage with these hustlers from "To the stars academy" at all. That's the only good response. To the Stars Academy of Arts & Sciences (media & entertainment company) makes this stuff up and sells it. https://tothestars.media/ https://tothestars.media/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_the_Stars_(company) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_the_Stars_(company)
- RobertMiller 5y ago
  > People read "Navy confirms authenticity of the video" as "This is important and Navy can't explain it." Precisely. There is a huge gap between what the Navy has actually claimed about the videos and what people think the Navy has claimed. 'The video is authentic' is not the same as 'the video shows what it's purported to show.'
gfodor 5y ago
The UAP report debunks the idea that all the evidence the government has has been debunked. Time will tell but the report reversed Project Blue Book, which ruled out non-human technology.

TooKool4This 5y ago

Or if you follow Hanlon's razor, if the Navy is incredibly (scarily) incompetent!

radicaldreamer 5y ago
That's a given (see all the ships crashing into other ships in the South Pacific a couple of years ago -- and not noticing for hours!)
RobertMiller 5y ago
That is possible, but I think strains credibility. The GOFAST video is egregious, I find it hard to believe nobody in the US Navy was able to calculate the actual [mundane, very... balloon-like] speed of that object using basic trigonometry. I think it's more likely the Navy knew there was nothing actually exotic in that video. The Defense Department described the subject of GOFAST, Gimble and FLIR videos as "UAV, Balloons, and other UAS". 'Balloons'; they know what it is. They're not even lying, they're being coy or misleading.
- astrange 5y ago
  The Drive thinks they're drone balloons. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40054/adversary-drones-are-spying-on-the-u-s-and-the-pentagon-acts-like-theyre-ufos https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40054/adversary-drones... https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40638/what-we-know-about-the-high-tech-balloons-lingering-off-the-coasts-of-the-u-s-recently https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40638/what-we-know-abo...
emkoemko 5y ago
i think they are, there is a video of a "fighter pilot" who does not understand basics of a cameras... he thinks you can't focus on objects at different distances at the same time.... how did he ever get to fly a jet? or parallax i mean he should know how that works

zionic 5y ago

Mick West utterly failed to “debunk” these videos, and actual fighter pilots have debunked his “debunk”. https://youtu.be/ro29w4ESw44 https://youtu.be/ro29w4ESw44

RobertMiller 5y ago
Do you happen to have a copy of this supposed debunking debunking that isn't given by Alvin the Chimpmunk? Wtf dude.
- Workaccount2 5y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tyw4JA00AMc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tyw4JA00AMc Here is the video on the actual fighter pilot's channel
emkoemko 5y ago
are you kidding now? that pilot does not even know how cameras work at all and your using him ??? this American pilot does not know how depth of field works... can't even notice in his own video recordings, this beyond funny. He thinks you can't have objects at different distances in focus at the same time ahahaha, does not get how parallax works... gave up after those dumb errors and smug attitude as he was saying such dumb things, i bet he made even more mistakes. is he really a "fighter pilot" or they just not trained to understand their gear?

nabla9 5y ago

People read "Navy confirms authenticity of the video" as "This is important and Navy can't explain it." (if they try). Only thing Navy does it confirms that the video is real. They don't say that they have even tried to identify or that there is any reason to identify. They have hundreds or thousands of hours of video or radar images of drones etc. they don't care to identify. Navy does not engage with these hustlers from "To the stars academy" at all. That's the only good response. To the Stars Academy of Arts & Sciences (media & entertainment company) makes this stuff up and sells it. https://tothestars.media/ https://tothestars.media/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_the_Stars_(company) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_the_Stars_(company)

RobertMiller 5y ago
> People read "Navy confirms authenticity of the video" as "This is important and Navy can't explain it." Precisely. There is a huge gap between what the Navy has actually claimed about the videos and what people think the Navy has claimed. 'The video is authentic' is not the same as 'the video shows what it's purported to show.'

gfodor 5y ago

The UAP report debunks the idea that all the evidence the government has has been debunked. Time will tell but the report reversed Project Blue Book, which ruled out non-human technology.