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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_Tao https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_Tao There are probably a couple working at Tesla and SpaceX but Elon gets all t

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_Tao https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_Tao There are probably a couple working at Tesla and SpaceX but Elon gets all the credit, he could still be one of them, I don't know enough about their process. Maybe a few people in the biotech industry, I wouldn't know about them but the innovation there with crispr and mrna vaccines and other things seems quite crazy and cool

lern_too_spel 5y ago
He was also aristocratically tutored, learning mostly at home (first from his parents and then from a litany of professional mathematicians who tutored him in what they were interested in) and then speeding through classes all the way through undergrad.
- betwixthewires 5y ago
  And the next generation will be able to do the same thing at a whim even in poverty with a little device in their pocket, and not even have to pay for the classes.
  - thfuran 5y ago
    Watching some videos on the internet is not the same thing as being tutored.
    - betwixthewires 5y ago
      I'm not talking about watching videos on the internet. I'm talking about libgen, scihub, MITs entire curriculum for free on the internet, forums and chatrooms to discuss topics with others, and some videos on the internet. And that's just the free ones.
      - s-lambert 5y ago
        That's still not anywhere near the same though, a tutor is able to figure out what the student is missing through observation and also teach in a way that the student will learn fastest. Whereas any internet resource relies on the student being able to figure out what they themselves don't know and isn't tailor-made for them.
        betwixthewires 5y ago
        Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. Having a person sit down with you and walk you through everything one on one is great. Having swathes of useful information available to everyone that's interested and determined is a sure way to create a much more highly educated society at a low cost. And as a bonus, geniuses are more able to hone their gifts so you get more of them.
        datatrashfire 5y ago
        The argument is that 1:1 instruction, or tutoring, is a superior way to acquire knowledge. Having lots of information available is great, but not a substitute.
        betwixthewires 5y ago
        The discussion here is about an argument that says basically without tutoring you can't create Einsteins. My only point is that we can now make them easier and cheaper than ever because they can make themselves. On this specific topic, I must admit I do believe 1:1 tutoring is overrated. I've taught myself most of what I know, and the rest I learned in a classroom. I have never had one on one tutoring. I may not be representative of the population, but I bet most people don't need near as much tutoring as a tutor would have you believe, they just need access to accurate and well organized information.
        lern_too_spel 5y ago
        The article isn't about high performers. It is about world-changing genius. If you had a competent tutor, you would progress much faster and much further than you have by yourself.
  - hackerfromthefu 5y ago
    Except they will fritter their time on fb and tiktok and the other countless distractions online.
    - betwixthewires 5y ago
      Yeah 90% of them will. It's still exceptional, just not limited to those with connections. That still leaves an order of magnitude more people motivated to learn that didn't have the option to before.
lamontcg 5y ago
> There are probably a couple working at Tesla and SpaceX but Elon gets all the credit Lars Blackmore, Behçet Açikmeşe, and probably a large cast of engineers.

lern_too_spel 5y ago

He was also aristocratically tutored, learning mostly at home (first from his parents and then from a litany of professional mathematicians who tutored him in what they were interested in) and then speeding through classes all the way through undergrad.

betwixthewires 5y ago
And the next generation will be able to do the same thing at a whim even in poverty with a little device in their pocket, and not even have to pay for the classes.
- thfuran 5y ago
  Watching some videos on the internet is not the same thing as being tutored.
  - betwixthewires 5y ago
    I'm not talking about watching videos on the internet. I'm talking about libgen, scihub, MITs entire curriculum for free on the internet, forums and chatrooms to discuss topics with others, and some videos on the internet. And that's just the free ones.
    - s-lambert 5y ago
      That's still not anywhere near the same though, a tutor is able to figure out what the student is missing through observation and also teach in a way that the student will learn fastest. Whereas any internet resource relies on the student being able to figure out what they themselves don't know and isn't tailor-made for them.
      - betwixthewires 5y ago
        Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. Having a person sit down with you and walk you through everything one on one is great. Having swathes of useful information available to everyone that's interested and determined is a sure way to create a much more highly educated society at a low cost. And as a bonus, geniuses are more able to hone their gifts so you get more of them.
        datatrashfire 5y ago
        The argument is that 1:1 instruction, or tutoring, is a superior way to acquire knowledge. Having lots of information available is great, but not a substitute.
        betwixthewires 5y ago
        The discussion here is about an argument that says basically without tutoring you can't create Einsteins. My only point is that we can now make them easier and cheaper than ever because they can make themselves. On this specific topic, I must admit I do believe 1:1 tutoring is overrated. I've taught myself most of what I know, and the rest I learned in a classroom. I have never had one on one tutoring. I may not be representative of the population, but I bet most people don't need near as much tutoring as a tutor would have you believe, they just need access to accurate and well organized information.
        lern_too_spel 5y ago
        The article isn't about high performers. It is about world-changing genius. If you had a competent tutor, you would progress much faster and much further than you have by yourself.
- hackerfromthefu 5y ago
  Except they will fritter their time on fb and tiktok and the other countless distractions online.
  - betwixthewires 5y ago
    Yeah 90% of them will. It's still exceptional, just not limited to those with connections. That still leaves an order of magnitude more people motivated to learn that didn't have the option to before.

lamontcg 5y ago

> There are probably a couple working at Tesla and SpaceX but Elon gets all the credit Lars Blackmore, Behçet Açikmeşe, and probably a large cast of engineers.