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Because neighbor in this context literally means next to or very near another country. Open any map and you’ll se that Syria’s neighbors are Iraq and Turkey, no

by blub 5y ago

Because neighbor in this context literally means next to or very near another country. Open any map and you’ll se that Syria’s neighbors are Iraq and Turkey, not Sweden and Germany. The EU doesn’t owe any support to Syria, critics should be thankful that the EU is doing so much given the cost in social harmony and a rise in extreme right-wing sentiments.

csmpltn 5y ago
> "Because neighbor in this context literally means next to or very near another country. Open any map and you’ll se that Syria’s neighbors are Iraq and Turkey, not Sweden and Germany." Sweden and Germany aren't next to, or "very near" to, Ukraine. Next to Ukraine are Russia, Belarus, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Moldova, Poland and Turkey. If you're fine with people from Ukraine coming to Sweden and Germany on the basis of Ukraine's geographical proximity to those countries, I'm not sure why you'd be against people from Syria coming to Sweden and Germany. A lot of Syrians sought asylum in Greece and Italy - they're not that far from Syria after-all? > "The EU doesn’t owe any support to Syria" What does the EU "owe" Ukraine? Ukraine isn't a member state either, just like Syria. Does the EU also owe Georgia or Moldova anything? I think you need to take a break and contemplate your biases and presuppositions towards people.
- blub 5y ago
  Western Europe are helping Poland and Romania which are direct neighbors and do have to accept refugees. Actually the real mystery is why the EU would take anyone at all from Syria, which is pure courtesy and zero obligation. And the answer is that the EU is a wannabe moral superpower that’s great at taking in refugees (or people claiming to be refugees) and bad at everything that comes after. It’s already over its capacity to absorb outsiders. In the end the EU heads of state act surprised that anti-foreigner sentiments and the popularity of right-wing parties are rising, rinse and repeat while the wheels haven’t fallen off yet. The UK seem to know their limits since their new found independence and just as expected they’re getting skewered for not throwing the gates wide open.

by blub 5y ago

csmpltn 5y ago

> "Because neighbor in this context literally means next to or very near another country. Open any map and you’ll se that Syria’s neighbors are Iraq and Turkey, not Sweden and Germany." Sweden and Germany aren't next to, or "very near" to, Ukraine. Next to Ukraine are Russia, Belarus, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Moldova, Poland and Turkey. If you're fine with people from Ukraine coming to Sweden and Germany on the basis of Ukraine's geographical proximity to those countries, I'm not sure why you'd be against people from Syria coming to Sweden and Germany. A lot of Syrians sought asylum in Greece and Italy - they're not that far from Syria after-all? > "The EU doesn’t owe any support to Syria" What does the EU "owe" Ukraine? Ukraine isn't a member state either, just like Syria. Does the EU also owe Georgia or Moldova anything? I think you need to take a break and contemplate your biases and presuppositions towards people.

blub 5y ago
Western Europe are helping Poland and Romania which are direct neighbors and do have to accept refugees. Actually the real mystery is why the EU would take anyone at all from Syria, which is pure courtesy and zero obligation. And the answer is that the EU is a wannabe moral superpower that’s great at taking in refugees (or people claiming to be refugees) and bad at everything that comes after. It’s already over its capacity to absorb outsiders. In the end the EU heads of state act surprised that anti-foreigner sentiments and the popularity of right-wing parties are rising, rinse and repeat while the wheels haven’t fallen off yet. The UK seem to know their limits since their new found independence and just as expected they’re getting skewered for not throwing the gates wide open.