2 ms·

You're making a lot of broad, unfounded claims. According to [1], Ukraine has a "A long path towards integration" (into the European Union): > "Of course, it i

You're making a lot of broad, unfounded claims. According to [1], Ukraine has a "A long path towards integration" (into the European Union): > "Of course, it is not only Ukraine’s population but its level of economic development that makes membership so costly for the EU. Ukraine is much poorer than Bulgaria, the poorest existing EU member state. Using 2013 World Bank pre-crisis (mid-year) figures, Ukraine’s GDP per capita ($3,900) was slightly over half (53%) that of Bulgaria ($7,340). Ukraine’s GDP per capita is also just over one-tenth (11%) that of the EU average ($34,240). For the sake of comparison, the GDP per capita of Croatia, the newest EU member, is almost identical to that of Poland ($13,520) and higher than that of the largest candidate country Turkey ($10,945)." "Ukraine’s membership prospects are also linked to significant legal and political challenges. In discussions over Ukraine’s Association Agreement, EU negotiators repeatedly expressed concern over Ukraine’s high level of corruption, and insisted upon reforms within the judicial and electoral systems, as well as the release of former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko from prison for medical treatment." [1] https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/eu-accession-and-ukraine-crisis/ https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/eu-accession-and-ukrain... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union%E2%80%93Ukraine_Association_Agreement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union%E2%80%93Ukraine... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_enlargement_of_the_European_Union#cite_note-65 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_enlargement_of_the_E...

ChuckNorris89 5y ago
I was talking about the Ukrainian people and you're talking about Ukraine the country. Different things.
- csmpltn 5y ago
  > "I was talking about the Ukrainian people and you're talking about Ukraine the country. Different things." I think this is where this conversation is going to have to end, because I don't think this is a reasonable, or a rational argument to make. We've started this thread by trying to better understand why many other countries who are in a way worse situation do not get the same help offered now to Ukraine - and you're response is now basically down to "because the Ukrainian people are special and I know it".
  - ChuckNorris89 5y ago
    >many other countries who are in a way worse situation do not get the same help Then why aren't YOU helping those in worse situation from many other countries that are not Ukraine? Help is not a random charity, countries are funded by their taxpayers so the taxpayers in a democratic country should have a saying on where their tax money should go to for help or else their leaders will be voted out come next elections, and if many EU countries are biased for whatever reason to help Ukraine or Ukrainians, then it's their choice to do so regardless of how you feel about it. Life is merciless and inherently unfair to almost everyone and whining about the fairness of it on the internet won't help anyone. If this unfairness bothers you then vote against this or put your money where your mouth is and donate it or go to the middle east or Africa and help the poor people there.

ChuckNorris89 5y ago

I was talking about the Ukrainian people and you're talking about Ukraine the country. Different things.

csmpltn 5y ago
> "I was talking about the Ukrainian people and you're talking about Ukraine the country. Different things." I think this is where this conversation is going to have to end, because I don't think this is a reasonable, or a rational argument to make. We've started this thread by trying to better understand why many other countries who are in a way worse situation do not get the same help offered now to Ukraine - and you're response is now basically down to "because the Ukrainian people are special and I know it".
- ChuckNorris89 5y ago
  >many other countries who are in a way worse situation do not get the same help Then why aren't YOU helping those in worse situation from many other countries that are not Ukraine? Help is not a random charity, countries are funded by their taxpayers so the taxpayers in a democratic country should have a saying on where their tax money should go to for help or else their leaders will be voted out come next elections, and if many EU countries are biased for whatever reason to help Ukraine or Ukrainians, then it's their choice to do so regardless of how you feel about it. Life is merciless and inherently unfair to almost everyone and whining about the fairness of it on the internet won't help anyone. If this unfairness bothers you then vote against this or put your money where your mouth is and donate it or go to the middle east or Africa and help the poor people there.