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One app that is decidedly not "eco" is YouTube on the phone. Google holds your phone's battery to ransom, if you don't pay to use YouTube, as it doesn't allow

One app that is decidedly not "eco" is YouTube on the phone. Google holds your phone's battery to ransom, if you don't pay to use YouTube, as it doesn't allow you to turn off the screen (I can listen to adverts too you know, if that's what they're worried about). Given the number of Android phones there are, I think that "feature" must have wasted an amazing amount of electricity and contributed to wearing-out batteries. Rather than eco-certifying apps, some apps could be eco-shamed.

entropyie 5y ago
FYI, a good solution for youtube on Android is FireFox + "Video Background Play Fix" https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-background-play-fix/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-backgro... or the NewPipe App...
- R0b0t1 5y ago
  Everyone who can please go find the bug report where users were outraged about the page visibility API and comment. If Firefox can block popups for the user's benefit, it can mess with the page visibility for the user's benefit.
  - tentacleuno 5y ago
    There's one bug report[0] which I found by searching their BigZilla[1], but that was last active 6 years ago... [0]: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1246485 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1246485 [1]: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=Page+visibility https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=Page+vi...
dahfizz 5y ago
What do you watch on YouTube that you want to be able to turn your screen off for? I pay for YouTube red but I literally never use this feature. Likewise I don't expect to be able to turn off my TV screen while listening to Netflix...
- ihattendorf 5y ago
  Some people use YouTube as a method of listening to music/podcasts/etc.
  - DocTomoe 5y ago
    To be completely fair - that's not ecological use either. Decoding a video stream must be more electricity-consuming as comparing to just doing a native audio stream.
    - smoldesu 5y ago
      YouTube can (and I believe does) serve simple audio streams for scenarios where you're only listening to music/podcasts. Try poking around a YouTube link with yt-dlp, they definitely have audio-only sources available.

entropyie 5y ago

FYI, a good solution for youtube on Android is FireFox + "Video Background Play Fix" https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-background-play-fix/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-backgro... or the NewPipe App...

R0b0t1 5y ago
Everyone who can please go find the bug report where users were outraged about the page visibility API and comment. If Firefox can block popups for the user's benefit, it can mess with the page visibility for the user's benefit.
- tentacleuno 5y ago
  There's one bug report[0] which I found by searching their BigZilla[1], but that was last active 6 years ago... [0]: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1246485 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1246485 [1]: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=Page+visibility https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=Page+vi...

dahfizz 5y ago

What do you watch on YouTube that you want to be able to turn your screen off for? I pay for YouTube red but I literally never use this feature. Likewise I don't expect to be able to turn off my TV screen while listening to Netflix...

ihattendorf 5y ago
Some people use YouTube as a method of listening to music/podcasts/etc.
- DocTomoe 5y ago
  To be completely fair - that's not ecological use either. Decoding a video stream must be more electricity-consuming as comparing to just doing a native audio stream.
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    YouTube can (and I believe does) serve simple audio streams for scenarios where you're only listening to music/podcasts. Try poking around a YouTube link with yt-dlp, they definitely have audio-only sources available.