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And people will keep finding ways of financing their love (playing music). In fact, I don't know many of my favorite musicians today who make a living from thei

by stephth 15y ago

And people will keep finding ways of financing their love (playing music). In fact, I don't know many of my favorite musicians today who make a living from their music. They all work day jobs. I think this new cultural line of thought of "in this day and age with the tools we have why would you need a full day job support for ..." (replace ... with making music, running a blog, developing games, etc) is pure arrogant bullshit. Yes, you can have hobbies, and side projects, and some might excel at doing them for a while. But doing your craft as an actual full time job is the only way to reach, and maintain, your full potential.

krig 15y ago
I don't see where I said that I endorsed this state of affairs. I would love it if people who make music could make a living off it with less of a struggle. I'm just pointing out the fact that they don't, today. Somehow, there's still music being made. I just don't see a realistic turn of events where suddenly everyone is paying for CDs again. I also don't think creativity will stop because the money does. Also, I think you are the one spouting pure arrogant bullshit when you completely dismiss amateur production. Just because you can't squeeze in hours of practice time outside your work schedule doesn't mean other people aren't doing it, right now. In fact there are tons of hugely talented musicians out there who aren't making a living off their music. edit: Oh, I think I misread your intent with the "pure arrogant bullshit" thing, sorry for turning harsh. We don't really disagree, I completely agree that having to work a day job to support a music "career" is crap. On the other hand, I don't really see how it's ever been much different, except for a few lucky people who made it huge the golden eras of vinyl and CDs.
- stephth 15y ago
  I don't see where I said that I endorsed this state of affairs. I don't care so much if you in specific endorse it. i do care about how it's a line of thought that we hear more and more often. Also, I think you are the one spouting pure arrogant bullshit when you completely dismiss amateur production. I dismissed amateur production? are you sure you hit reply in the right comment? In fact there are tons of hugely talented musicians out there who aren't making a living off their music. no kidding! you just blew my mind. now think of what they could do if they made/played their music as a full time job.
- LiveTheDream 15y ago
  > I just don't see a realistic turn of events where suddenly everyone is paying for CDs again. Lots of people pay for Spotify.[1] CDs are dead, but because of the medium, not the concept of paying for something. [1] http://www.arcticstartup.com/2011/02/09/spotify-second-largest-source-of-revenue-in-europe-for-labels/ http://www.arcticstartup.com/2011/02/09/spotify-second-large...

by stephth 15y ago

krig 15y ago

I don't see where I said that I endorsed this state of affairs. I would love it if people who make music could make a living off it with less of a struggle. I'm just pointing out the fact that they don't, today. Somehow, there's still music being made. I just don't see a realistic turn of events where suddenly everyone is paying for CDs again. I also don't think creativity will stop because the money does. Also, I think you are the one spouting pure arrogant bullshit when you completely dismiss amateur production. Just because you can't squeeze in hours of practice time outside your work schedule doesn't mean other people aren't doing it, right now. In fact there are tons of hugely talented musicians out there who aren't making a living off their music. edit: Oh, I think I misread your intent with the "pure arrogant bullshit" thing, sorry for turning harsh. We don't really disagree, I completely agree that having to work a day job to support a music "career" is crap. On the other hand, I don't really see how it's ever been much different, except for a few lucky people who made it huge the golden eras of vinyl and CDs.

stephth 15y ago
I don't see where I said that I endorsed this state of affairs. I don't care so much if you in specific endorse it. i do care about how it's a line of thought that we hear more and more often. Also, I think you are the one spouting pure arrogant bullshit when you completely dismiss amateur production. I dismissed amateur production? are you sure you hit reply in the right comment? In fact there are tons of hugely talented musicians out there who aren't making a living off their music. no kidding! you just blew my mind. now think of what they could do if they made/played their music as a full time job.
LiveTheDream 15y ago
> I just don't see a realistic turn of events where suddenly everyone is paying for CDs again. Lots of people pay for Spotify.[1] CDs are dead, but because of the medium, not the concept of paying for something. [1] http://www.arcticstartup.com/2011/02/09/spotify-second-largest-source-of-revenue-in-europe-for-labels/ http://www.arcticstartup.com/2011/02/09/spotify-second-large...