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This is the wrong way to look at it. If Syrian refugees had the media coverage Ukrainian ones do there'd be job boards for them and much more besides. People ar

This is the wrong way to look at it. If Syrian refugees had the media coverage Ukrainian ones do there'd be job boards for them and much more besides. People are reacting to the magnitude of the perceived crisis. Peoples' compassion pretty much knows no borders. If there is any finger-pointing to be done then it's at the mainstream media not at how individuals or groups are trying to help human beings in need.

robrorcroptrer 5y ago
This is based on the assumption that it all has to do with media exposure.
inductive_magic 5y ago
>If Syrian refugees had the media coverage Ukrainian ones do there'd be job boards for them and much more besides Your confidence in this statement is beyond me. We've been there, Germany 2015, Syria crisis. There was no lack of media representation of the conflict, the victms, etc. Of course the whole "russia vs the world" thing makes the Ukraine-invasion a different ballgame, but no way in hell would you see job boards for Syrians all across Europe if only the media paid enough attention. The media sold and told the story over and over, to anyone that was willing to listen. People just aren't as open to completely foreign cultures and to Islam as they are to Eastern Europe - and frankly, I can't take a claim that diverges from this very basic groundline too serious. Talk to actual people in Europe and they will confirm what I'm saying here. Everyone knows someone from Eastern Europe, we know their culture, they are - like the gp said - our neighbours. Syrians are not. I've met wonderful people amongst the syrian refugees, don't get me wrong. But to claim that there is no difference in sympathy whatsoever is simply ignorant to reality, and I think your audience here deserves better than that.
scotty79 5y ago
That's completely wrong. People's compassion at least in Europe is very localized and tribal. The neighbor analogy summs it up perfectly. Don't dismiss it. Learn to understand it.
hansworst 5y ago
Not sure about Norway specifically, but job boards for non-western refugees existed before this war started: https://www.refugeeforce.nl/apply https://www.refugeeforce.nl/apply https://www.hackyourfuture.net/ https://www.hackyourfuture.net/
anu7df 5y ago
Sorry. Media coverage would have no perceivable difference in the nature of response to Syrians vs Ukrainians. Rightly or Wrongly it is about what people are comfortable with. Europeans are more comfortable with other Europeans settling near them. Unfortunately there is a religious aspect too in this which I don't need to spell out. Some of that is a fear of what you don't know, but (again) unfortunately it is also sometimes the justified fear of more radical elements of the religion.
Akronymus 5y ago
With Syria, they share much less commonalities in terms of culture than Ukrainians.

robrorcroptrer 5y ago

This is based on the assumption that it all has to do with media exposure.

inductive_magic 5y ago

>If Syrian refugees had the media coverage Ukrainian ones do there'd be job boards for them and much more besides Your confidence in this statement is beyond me. We've been there, Germany 2015, Syria crisis. There was no lack of media representation of the conflict, the victms, etc. Of course the whole "russia vs the world" thing makes the Ukraine-invasion a different ballgame, but no way in hell would you see job boards for Syrians all across Europe if only the media paid enough attention. The media sold and told the story over and over, to anyone that was willing to listen. People just aren't as open to completely foreign cultures and to Islam as they are to Eastern Europe - and frankly, I can't take a claim that diverges from this very basic groundline too serious. Talk to actual people in Europe and they will confirm what I'm saying here. Everyone knows someone from Eastern Europe, we know their culture, they are - like the gp said - our neighbours. Syrians are not. I've met wonderful people amongst the syrian refugees, don't get me wrong. But to claim that there is no difference in sympathy whatsoever is simply ignorant to reality, and I think your audience here deserves better than that.

scotty79 5y ago

That's completely wrong. People's compassion at least in Europe is very localized and tribal. The neighbor analogy summs it up perfectly. Don't dismiss it. Learn to understand it.

hansworst 5y ago

Not sure about Norway specifically, but job boards for non-western refugees existed before this war started: https://www.refugeeforce.nl/apply https://www.refugeeforce.nl/apply https://www.hackyourfuture.net/ https://www.hackyourfuture.net/

anu7df 5y ago

Sorry. Media coverage would have no perceivable difference in the nature of response to Syrians vs Ukrainians. Rightly or Wrongly it is about what people are comfortable with. Europeans are more comfortable with other Europeans settling near them. Unfortunately there is a religious aspect too in this which I don't need to spell out. Some of that is a fear of what you don't know, but (again) unfortunately it is also sometimes the justified fear of more radical elements of the religion.

Akronymus 5y ago

With Syria, they share much less commonalities in terms of culture than Ukrainians.