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Arab Spring was street protests. results varied widely from Tunisia to Egypt to Syria, but in all cases protests led to massive change.

unmole 5y ago
Last I checked Assad was still in power. This is despite significant foreign involvement. Is NATO going to start funding armed opposition in Russia?
- 2rsf 5y ago
  (ex Israeli here) I actually don't think Syria is a good example for the Arab Spring,they were attacked by ISIS and Curds, Iran got involved on the way and then Russia, the US and Israel through some more fire into the mix. It was not an attempt to throw Aasad and start a democracy.
  - unmole 5y ago
    The street protests and the initial armed insurrection most definitely claimed they wanted to bring down Assad. How much of it was motivated by a a desire for democracy versus the resentment of the Sunni majority against perceived Alawite domination, I don't know.
csomar 5y ago
> Arab Spring was street protests. results varied widely from Tunisia to Egypt to Syria, but in all cases protests led to massive change. With Tunisia going back to authoritarianism, Libya/Yemen at war, Egypt already back to military control and Syria holding the status quo.... I'm not sure what massive change you are talking about.
hnov 5y ago
I would not want an Arab spring, give me a dictatorship over an endless low level conflict between warring factions any day.
wara23arish 5y ago
Almost all of the arab spring countries except for Tunisia maybe are worse off, they are significantly worse off too. Literal slave market in Libya for example. People dont seem to understand that foreign interventions are complicated seem to almost always go wrong. Its not as simple as oh Saddam is a dictator, get rid of him, all done we good. What pisses me off the most is that these gov agents face no consequences for any failed interventions. They dont really care if people die as a result, cities are leveled refugees etc.. they’ll move on to get a promotion in the white house somewhere else and work on other stuff. I find it disgusting and dehumanizing. Apologies for the rant.

unmole 5y ago

Last I checked Assad was still in power. This is despite significant foreign involvement. Is NATO going to start funding armed opposition in Russia?

2rsf 5y ago
(ex Israeli here) I actually don't think Syria is a good example for the Arab Spring,they were attacked by ISIS and Curds, Iran got involved on the way and then Russia, the US and Israel through some more fire into the mix. It was not an attempt to throw Aasad and start a democracy.
- unmole 5y ago
  The street protests and the initial armed insurrection most definitely claimed they wanted to bring down Assad. How much of it was motivated by a a desire for democracy versus the resentment of the Sunni majority against perceived Alawite domination, I don't know.

csomar 5y ago

> Arab Spring was street protests. results varied widely from Tunisia to Egypt to Syria, but in all cases protests led to massive change. With Tunisia going back to authoritarianism, Libya/Yemen at war, Egypt already back to military control and Syria holding the status quo.... I'm not sure what massive change you are talking about.

hnov 5y ago

I would not want an Arab spring, give me a dictatorship over an endless low level conflict between warring factions any day.

wara23arish 5y ago

Almost all of the arab spring countries except for Tunisia maybe are worse off, they are significantly worse off too. Literal slave market in Libya for example. People dont seem to understand that foreign interventions are complicated seem to almost always go wrong. Its not as simple as oh Saddam is a dictator, get rid of him, all done we good. What pisses me off the most is that these gov agents face no consequences for any failed interventions. They dont really care if people die as a result, cities are leveled refugees etc.. they’ll move on to get a promotion in the white house somewhere else and work on other stuff. I find it disgusting and dehumanizing. Apologies for the rant.