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A large chunk of semi-precious metals with thousands of parts, significant assembly labor and noteworthy cost that often takes years of the median income to pay

A large chunk of semi-precious metals with thousands of parts, significant assembly labor and noteworthy cost that often takes years of the median income to pay for should be near disposable when significant issues crop up? Good luck with that one buddy. Cars ain't that cheap, significant repairs are often cheaper than the cost of a new vehicle.

411111111111111 5y ago
That's easily solved. Just raise the cost for the repairs! I wish I was joking...
piva00 5y ago
Significant environmental impact as well. Disposable anything is the blight of the modern age, here in Sweden I see a small movement towards buying 2nd hand for most things and... It just makes sense for a lot of items: kitchen appliances, sewing machines, power tools, home theater speakers, etc. Reduce, reuse, recycle. Why have we forgotten the first 2 Rs? I learned this in school during the 90s, it's been 30 years and people still have a "disposable mindset". It's terrifying...
nunez 5y ago
Yet a large percentage of Americans are perfectly fine with this model for iPhones through the iPhone Upgrade Program and independent carrier upgrade programs. The cost-of-entry should be high, but with a high production rate, aggressive recycling and a consistent user experience, the cost-to-stay should be minimal. Car terminally breaks? Replace it with another one, and recycle the original to make a new one for someone else. Minimal (ideally zero) waste, minimal impact on the environment, easier for all parties (customer is waiting at-most a few days for a new car; manufacturer spends time servicing lower-impact issues that could be addressed remotely at customer's homes; insurance payouts are less complicated since the resolution matrix is smaller), and significantly safer (new car that's known-good vs a repaired car with unpredictable failure modes due to alteration)
- simfree 5y ago
  Recycling ie expensive and inefficient. Reducing what we use and reusing what we have is the most environmentally friendly option. Plastics, leather, cloth, rubber printed circuit boards and such require significant labor to separate from eachother, and even if that labor is already done the cost to recycle it is higher than using virgin materials, and the result is lower quality.

411111111111111 5y ago

That's easily solved. Just raise the cost for the repairs! I wish I was joking...

piva00 5y ago

Significant environmental impact as well. Disposable anything is the blight of the modern age, here in Sweden I see a small movement towards buying 2nd hand for most things and... It just makes sense for a lot of items: kitchen appliances, sewing machines, power tools, home theater speakers, etc. Reduce, reuse, recycle. Why have we forgotten the first 2 Rs? I learned this in school during the 90s, it's been 30 years and people still have a "disposable mindset". It's terrifying...

nunez 5y ago

Yet a large percentage of Americans are perfectly fine with this model for iPhones through the iPhone Upgrade Program and independent carrier upgrade programs. The cost-of-entry should be high, but with a high production rate, aggressive recycling and a consistent user experience, the cost-to-stay should be minimal. Car terminally breaks? Replace it with another one, and recycle the original to make a new one for someone else. Minimal (ideally zero) waste, minimal impact on the environment, easier for all parties (customer is waiting at-most a few days for a new car; manufacturer spends time servicing lower-impact issues that could be addressed remotely at customer's homes; insurance payouts are less complicated since the resolution matrix is smaller), and significantly safer (new car that's known-good vs a repaired car with unpredictable failure modes due to alteration)

simfree 5y ago
Recycling ie expensive and inefficient. Reducing what we use and reusing what we have is the most environmentally friendly option. Plastics, leather, cloth, rubber printed circuit boards and such require significant labor to separate from eachother, and even if that labor is already done the cost to recycle it is higher than using virgin materials, and the result is lower quality.