Sure is a lot more effective if they're good at communicating and actually meet business needs... Not every application needs to have 99.9999999% uptime. There

Sure is a lot more effective if they're good at communicating and actually meet business needs... Not every application needs to have 99.9999999% uptime. There is plenty of honest to goodness productive output coming out of "shit" codebases that just tackled one use-case after another, never giving a care about some weirdo dumping in a bunch of unicode.