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That's pretty cool, it's like if TempleOS was a Linux!

by eternityforest 5y ago

wenus 5y ago
In what way?
snek_case 5y ago
Well, it's missing the games, the religious gospel, and racist remarks by the author.
- JasonFruit 5y ago
  And you're missing some compassion.
  - snek_case 5y ago
    In what way? I recognize that the remarks Terry A. Davis made were not his fault, it's the mental illness. Doesn't change the fact that he had an unfortunate fixation on race. I wish his terrible fate could have been avoided, but having been very close for many years to a schizophrenic person, I can tell you that they will only get treatment if they want to. You can't force them. You can try to be there and help them in small ways, but sometimes it's just impossible to make them change course. When I think of TempleOS I think that it was both strange and funny. It was the artistic creation of a mentally ill programmer. I still think that, if it made me and other people laugh at times, that's a small positive thing. I wasn't laughing at the creator, but the small religious minigames in TempleOS cracked me up at times. Linus Tech Tips reviews TempleOS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtlyeDAJR7A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtlyeDAJR7A
    - zozbot234 5y ago
      > Doesn't change the fact that he had an unfortunate fixation on race. If so, he shares that trait with plenty of people in the US, who increasingly view "racial blindness" as untenable. Of course it's not their fault either: "noticing" race is simply a very successful, self-replicating memetic parasite which can leverage the likes of Twitter or 4chan equally as platforms for its spread.
      - ILMostro7 5y ago
        yikes. Racial blindness is still a form of blindness. If everyone spent more time working on their own shit everyone would be better off. Instead, one side is scared of and angry at the other side, easily leading to stubborn refusal to grow or down a slippery slope towards hatred or indifference.
        skissane 5y ago
        > Racial blindness is still a form of blindness I'm Australian, born in the 1980s, spent my whole life here. I can tell you growing up we rarely (if ever) thought about "who is what race". In part it is a cultural thing – in my lifetime, official Australian society (government/media/etc) has discouraged talk of "races", encouraging people to instead identify via finer-grained nationality/ethnicity/culture labels – i.e. "Chinese" or "Indian" or "Vietnamese" not "Asian", "Irish" or "Italian" or "Polish" not "white", etc. The whole "who is what race" thing sounds very American to my ears. I believe that way of thinking is becoming more common here, as Australia becomes more Americanised through social media and other sources, but I'm not inclined to see that as a positive development. That's not to say there is no problem with racism in contemporary Australia. I remember at my high school, there was a significant minority of students of Lebanese ancestry (it was a Catholic high school, so our ethnically Lebanese students were predominantly Maronite Catholics) – and I definitely remember hearing some mildly prejudiced things said about them, even to their faces. But, in all that, I doubt anybody was ever asking themselves "are Lebanese people white?" One of my school friends, who is of partial Italian descent (albeit via Argentina/Uruguay rather than directly), had to put up with dumb jokes at school about his dad being in the Mafia. He told me how when his father first moved to Australia in the 1970s, his coworkers would exploit his poor knowledge of English to trick him into saying offensive things to the boss. What "race" are my friend and his dad? The question seems pointless, irrelevant. At least here in Australia, "racism" is generally defined as prejudice on the basis of "race, colour, descent or national or ethnic origin" – so it isn't necessary to categorise a person as belonging to any particular "race" to acknowledge them as a victim of racism. How then does one describe this difference between the US and Australia – between a society which strongly (and maybe even increasingly strongly) focuses on coarse-grained racial categories, and a society which (in recent decades) has had a strong tendency towards avoiding them? Maybe "racial blindness" isn't quite the right term for it, but it seems at least somewhat adjacent.
    - JasonFruit 5y ago
      Your comment came off as lacking compassion; perhaps I was mistaken in that impression.
    - h0l0cube 5y ago
      > In what way? I recognize that the remarks Terry A. Davis made were not his fault, it's the mental illness. I don't think mental illness really changes whether or not you have a good heart. I've met many people dealing with mental illness who are gracious and compassionate to all people no matter their race. Though it's possible his views might have been informed by his upbringing or his environment. Perhaps mental illness impairs self-reform or the capability for better judgement, but it can't be said that the mental illness, in and of itself, was the fault of mental illness.
      - zozbot234 5y ago
        Everything I've seen about Terry Davis suggests that he was consistently gracious and compassionate to pretty much anyone, other than perhaps those pesky glow-in-the-dark folks...
      - snek_case 5y ago
        My own experience has been that, at least in the case of severe mental illness, even well-meaning people can hurt others a lot, without meaning to.
      - h0l0cube 5y ago
        > but it can't be said that the mental illness, in and of itself, was the fault of mental illness. Late edit: racism can't be said to be the fault of mental illness
    - jamal-kumar 5y ago
      > mental illness > not just 4chan massively fucking with him
- throwaway984393 5y ago
  No! Apparently it does have games! This is crazy, the fonts and a bunch more things are all written in objective-C! https://github.com/arthurchoung/HOTDOG/tree/master/MainMenu https://github.com/arthurchoung/HOTDOG/tree/master/MainMenu https://github.com/arthurchoung/HOTDOG/blob/master/objects/object-KaboomClone.m https://github.com/arthurchoung/HOTDOG/blob/master/objects/o... https://github.com/arthurchoung/HOTDOG/blob/master/objects/object-CentipedeClone.m https://github.com/arthurchoung/HOTDOG/blob/master/objects/o...
  - Rebelgecko 5y ago
    I love how all the games just stuff the graphics and level layouts into strings. Very WYSIWYG

That's pretty cool, it's like if TempleOS was a Linux!

wenus 5y ago

In what way?

snek_case 5y ago

Well, it's missing the games, the religious gospel, and racist remarks by the author.

JasonFruit 5y ago
And you're missing some compassion.
- snek_case 5y ago
  In what way? I recognize that the remarks Terry A. Davis made were not his fault, it's the mental illness. Doesn't change the fact that he had an unfortunate fixation on race. I wish his terrible fate could have been avoided, but having been very close for many years to a schizophrenic person, I can tell you that they will only get treatment if they want to. You can't force them. You can try to be there and help them in small ways, but sometimes it's just impossible to make them change course. When I think of TempleOS I think that it was both strange and funny. It was the artistic creation of a mentally ill programmer. I still think that, if it made me and other people laugh at times, that's a small positive thing. I wasn't laughing at the creator, but the small religious minigames in TempleOS cracked me up at times. Linus Tech Tips reviews TempleOS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtlyeDAJR7A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtlyeDAJR7A
  - zozbot234 5y ago
    > Doesn't change the fact that he had an unfortunate fixation on race. If so, he shares that trait with plenty of people in the US, who increasingly view "racial blindness" as untenable. Of course it's not their fault either: "noticing" race is simply a very successful, self-replicating memetic parasite which can leverage the likes of Twitter or 4chan equally as platforms for its spread.
    - ILMostro7 5y ago
      yikes. Racial blindness is still a form of blindness. If everyone spent more time working on their own shit everyone would be better off. Instead, one side is scared of and angry at the other side, easily leading to stubborn refusal to grow or down a slippery slope towards hatred or indifference.
      - skissane 5y ago
        > Racial blindness is still a form of blindness I'm Australian, born in the 1980s, spent my whole life here. I can tell you growing up we rarely (if ever) thought about "who is what race". In part it is a cultural thing – in my lifetime, official Australian society (government/media/etc) has discouraged talk of "races", encouraging people to instead identify via finer-grained nationality/ethnicity/culture labels – i.e. "Chinese" or "Indian" or "Vietnamese" not "Asian", "Irish" or "Italian" or "Polish" not "white", etc. The whole "who is what race" thing sounds very American to my ears. I believe that way of thinking is becoming more common here, as Australia becomes more Americanised through social media and other sources, but I'm not inclined to see that as a positive development. That's not to say there is no problem with racism in contemporary Australia. I remember at my high school, there was a significant minority of students of Lebanese ancestry (it was a Catholic high school, so our ethnically Lebanese students were predominantly Maronite Catholics) – and I definitely remember hearing some mildly prejudiced things said about them, even to their faces. But, in all that, I doubt anybody was ever asking themselves "are Lebanese people white?" One of my school friends, who is of partial Italian descent (albeit via Argentina/Uruguay rather than directly), had to put up with dumb jokes at school about his dad being in the Mafia. He told me how when his father first moved to Australia in the 1970s, his coworkers would exploit his poor knowledge of English to trick him into saying offensive things to the boss. What "race" are my friend and his dad? The question seems pointless, irrelevant. At least here in Australia, "racism" is generally defined as prejudice on the basis of "race, colour, descent or national or ethnic origin" – so it isn't necessary to categorise a person as belonging to any particular "race" to acknowledge them as a victim of racism. How then does one describe this difference between the US and Australia – between a society which strongly (and maybe even increasingly strongly) focuses on coarse-grained racial categories, and a society which (in recent decades) has had a strong tendency towards avoiding them? Maybe "racial blindness" isn't quite the right term for it, but it seems at least somewhat adjacent.
  - JasonFruit 5y ago
    Your comment came off as lacking compassion; perhaps I was mistaken in that impression.
  - h0l0cube 5y ago
    > In what way? I recognize that the remarks Terry A. Davis made were not his fault, it's the mental illness. I don't think mental illness really changes whether or not you have a good heart. I've met many people dealing with mental illness who are gracious and compassionate to all people no matter their race. Though it's possible his views might have been informed by his upbringing or his environment. Perhaps mental illness impairs self-reform or the capability for better judgement, but it can't be said that the mental illness, in and of itself, was the fault of mental illness.
    - zozbot234 5y ago
      Everything I've seen about Terry Davis suggests that he was consistently gracious and compassionate to pretty much anyone, other than perhaps those pesky glow-in-the-dark folks...
    - snek_case 5y ago
      My own experience has been that, at least in the case of severe mental illness, even well-meaning people can hurt others a lot, without meaning to.
    - h0l0cube 5y ago
      > but it can't be said that the mental illness, in and of itself, was the fault of mental illness. Late edit: racism can't be said to be the fault of mental illness
  - jamal-kumar 5y ago
    > mental illness > not just 4chan massively fucking with him
throwaway984393 5y ago
No! Apparently it does have games! This is crazy, the fonts and a bunch more things are all written in objective-C! https://github.com/arthurchoung/HOTDOG/tree/master/MainMenu https://github.com/arthurchoung/HOTDOG/tree/master/MainMenu https://github.com/arthurchoung/HOTDOG/blob/master/objects/object-KaboomClone.m https://github.com/arthurchoung/HOTDOG/blob/master/objects/o... https://github.com/arthurchoung/HOTDOG/blob/master/objects/object-CentipedeClone.m https://github.com/arthurchoung/HOTDOG/blob/master/objects/o...
- Rebelgecko 5y ago
  I love how all the games just stuff the graphics and level layouts into strings. Very WYSIWYG