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What's people's deal with changing clocks? It's never bothered me.
by edflsafoiewq 5y ago
What's people's deal with changing clocks? It's never bothered me.
- AYBABTME 5y agoThere's evidence that accident rates and health issues increase by a significant margin right after the clock change that causes a reduction of night sleep by 1h. The book "Why We Sleep" makes a really good argument about it all, and is a generally great book.
- mjbeswick 5y agoAll the comments ignore the fact that until the industrial revolution people didn't sleeps a solid 8 hours a night, as in the past people used to practice polyphasic sleep. People used get up in the middle of night a socialise for a few hours before having their second sleep. Most people have complete control over when they go to bed, as they choose a particular time to go to bed.
- irrational 5y agoEach of our car clocks have to be changed manually. The clocks on the stove and microwave have to be changed manually. We have 7 wall clocks in the house that have to be changed manually. Our kids have alarm clocks that all have to be changed manually. The sprinkler system has a clock that has to be set manually. Even our garage door opener has a clock that has to be set manually. It is a huge pain every six months.
- montag 5y agoOr maybe you’re one of us whose car and microwave clock is an hour behind for 6 months every year…
- bruce511 5y agoNot 6 months. Standard time is already only 4 months long.
- MiddleEndian 5y agoYeah I have my microwave set to one time and my stove set to another, so one of them is always correct. However someone else set both of them, I was content to leave them at random times lol
- lovich 5y agoDo what normal people do and never update those clocks. It’s not like +1/-1 math is hard, and I can’t imagine trusting a manually adjusted clock if I actually cared about the time
- mynameisvlad 5y ago> Do what normal people do [citation needed] I would think that changing clocks is actually the more "normal" thing to do.
- yurishimo 5y agoYea, most people change the clock. The only clock I don’t change is my motorcycle because I can’t be bothered to use the archaic menu system to update something I never rely on. That said, it does take me a few weeks usually to update all the clocks as I’ll only do it when it starts to bother me or if that specific clock contributes to me being late/early.
- chockablock 5y agoI run around the house updating every clock I can find early on the Sunday morning. I update the clocks on rental cars if they're wrong. I'm not otherwise a super detail-oriented person. Clearly this is some kind of personality test.
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- Johnny555 5y agoThat's what I do, and that's a more viable solution than it used to be since I carry a pocket watch (i.e. a phone) with me everywhere I go, and I usually use Android Auto while driving, so my phone's clock is displayed in my car. But I used to rely on my car's clock to know what time it is, and kept it updated for DST.
- IncRnd 5y agoI don't change the clocks either. I just add or subtract an hour for half of the year, depending on when I first set the clock.
- giantg2 5y agoWhy do you have 7 wall clocks? How big is your house? Might be time to just wear a watch.
- _Nat_ 5y agoIt was common to have at least one clock per room. Wall-clocks were convenient, cheap, and provided comfort in the form of not needing to wear a watch around the house.
- giantg2 5y agoInteresting. I guess maybe in a different geographic location than me since I've never seen the 1 per room thing around here.
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- replygirl 5y agoliving room, kitchen, two bedrooms, two bathrooms, garage?
- giantg2 5y agoMy question is more so around the need for that many clocks. That isn't common where I'm from. Is it normal to have wall clocks in bathrooms?
- mbg721 5y agoPeople keep their bathrooms in weird ways. The most memorable one I saw had side-by-side photos of Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis and John Paul II, with little votive candles underneath each one.
- ziml77 5y agoIt's not typical to have them in bathrooms, but I actually do have a clock that requires manual setting in mine. It's a waterproof clock/radio and it's handy to have in there. Can keep track of what time it is while I'm getting ready in the morning.
- tbrownaw 5y ago> alarm clocks that all have to be changed manually Those are still a thing? We just use cell phones for alarms, and the only clocks that need to be changed are the decorative analog wall clock and the microwave which has to be reset after power outages way more often anyway (when we're not just leaving it blank).
- devmunchies 5y agoWe have a red digital clock on the bedroom dresser. Much nicer to glance at without blasting my face with blue light, especially if I see it’s 4:30am and want to go back to sleep. We try to limit smart phones in the bedroom in general, spend less time in bed in the mornings.
- judge2020 5y agoIt’s less the act of changing the clocks and rather the ill effects of losing an hour of sleep and readjusting for a few days of the year. > DST is linked to a six percent increase in car accidents. The study analyzed 20 years of data and found that DST is responsible for around 28 deaths each year. https://www.phillypilaw.com/2021/03/15/car-accidents-daylight-saving-time/ https://www.phillypilaw.com/2021/03/15/car-accidents-dayligh...
- ghaff 5y agoPeople really shouldn't fly I guess. Because many of us deal with multi-hour time changes on a regular basis. Going to be dealing with a 5 hour one in a couple of days.
- rlt 5y agoThat’s a choice you get to make. I’m sure some people chose not to fly to avoid dealing with it.
- dzikimarian 5y agoYou probably have a good reason for it and it's probably going to suck. I don't see why do this to everyone twice a year for no reason.
- ghaff 5y ago
- dzikimarian 5y agoI actually find regular changes worse. When I flied across the pond, schedule was constructed around it. Switch to and from DST requires semi-permanent shift in daily routine with is much more annoying.
- 0xCMP 5y agoJet Lag is a well known phenomenon and if you're changing time zones regularly you probably have a system to minimize it. If you did not you'd likely suffer much more from it. Also flying is optional, but changing from XST to XDT is not.
- psyc 5y agoIt never bothered me. This new deal won’t bother me either. Apparently other people have an awful lot to say about it though.
- ghaff 5y agoI think in an earlier life when I was commuting to fairly specific hours, I'd have cared a lot more--both about changing times and EST/EDT. These days I'm really pretty flexible and don't commute so it doesn't much matter.
- dijit 5y agoIt’s not even about the manual clock changes honestly for me. I never thought that changing clocks was the pain. It’s that everyone gets jetlag kinda randomly. One hour extra of sleep or one hour less. It’s just random, seemingly comes out of nowhere and knocks me on my ass for a couple of days while my body gets used to doing everything the same but an hour earlier or later. It’s literally the same as jetlag except I don’t have any environmental clues to help my body understand it’s _supposed_ to be doing something different
- Johnny555 5y agoIt’s not even about the manual clock changes honestly for me. I think that depends on how many clocks you have. My wife likes clocks and we have one in nearly every room, including 2 that are only reachable with a ladder. That's in addition to the stove, microwave, and even the refrigerator and toaster oven have a clock for no good reason. Plus the rice maker, bread maker and coffee maker also have clocks to allow timed cooking (i.e. have the rice ready by 6pm).
- dijit 5y agoSure. But even if I had to change dozens of clocks: those days of feeling like shit are just not worth it. If I had to change dozens of clocks but not change my sleep schedule I would do that.
- web007 5y agoThe answer for a few of those is easy: desync them by ±3.5 hours and then let them drift evermore. If you don't use the 6pm feature it doesn't matter if the time is accurate. I have a rice cooker that's permanently blinking 12s, and two TVs that I have no idea what time they're set to because I stopped updating them for DST and there has been a power outage or two since then. If you're unlucky and _have_ to have everything in sync then you've chosen your pain, so good luck to you. =)
- Johnny555 5y agoWe use the rice cooker timer regularly, and have sometimes been bitten by not noticing that the clock is off due to DST and the rice is done an hour early (or late). I have a 20+ year old "atomic clock" in my office -- it is always correct since it listens for the DST flag in the time signal - I wish more devices would do that, but I suspect that the low frequency signal (and low power over most of the country) means a bigger antenna than most designers want. We don't use the bread maker time, but when setting the mode, it shows the estimated completion time rather than duration, so if you want to know how long it's going to take, you need to know what the time is set to. If there was a way to disable the time completely, that wouldn't be so bad, but I don't like the "set me!" flashing 12:00 all the time on the microwave, and setting it at some random wrong time seems worse than having it exactly an hour off.
- warent 5y agoI just enjoyed a nice short weekend thanks to DST. Horrible
- jupp0r 5y agoIt takes weeks to get my kids to adapt to getting to bed an hour earlier. Before I had kids I too was wondering what the fuzz was about.
- jedberg 5y agoI had a massive parenting win this week. Normally it's a chore to get my kids to bed before 10pm, but yesterday I had them both asleep by 9:30pm. It was a damn miracle.
- nirvdrum 5y agoGetting the kids to adapt sucks, but my kids are considerably more cogent when they wake up and it's not pitch black out. I don't see next school year going well if the sun won't come up until well after they've started school.
- jupp0r 5y agoI notice the same. When does school start for your kids? For my kids it starts at 8:15 and that's enough for it to be bright out in the winter in standard time. I guess I haven't really thought about the fact that it might be dark out for most of the morning in daylight saving time in the winter. We live in SoCal, which mitigates the problem somewhat.
- nirvdrum 5y agoIt used to be that school start time went by the age of the student. So, high school kids started first, elementary school kids started last. Based on studies showing that isn't ideal, Massachusetts schools have started changing that around. So, grades 3 - 5 start earliest now at 7:30, which means getting up around ~6:30 to eat, dress, pack, etc. and get to the bus stop for a 7:10 pick-up. Standard time doesn't make it all sunny all morning, but it gradually rises as we're getting ready. It's really dismal when DST is still in effect. I think geographically, the northeast US should be in the Atlantic timezone, too, so that doesn't really help matters.
- dan-robertson 5y agoI work in Europe and have colleagues in the east coast of the US. The dst switches happen a few weeks apart so twice a year everyone gets fucked up schedules for two weeks because meetings move with the time zone of the person who created them. We have specialised tooling to notice if computer programs will behave weirdly because a job is scheduled to run during the hour of the night that happens twice/not at all (obviously one solution is to avoid scheduling jobs in local time but if you need to react with the real world where things are scheduled in local time, this becomes harder).
- joshspankit 5y agoLiterally just had this happen this week: We have a standing meeting between NA and London, and I thought we would have to have a talk when they were showing up “an hour late”. Turns out we all just forgot the offset changed between us.
- neutronicus 5y agoIt's a nightmare with young kids, let me tell you
- ksala_ 5y agoI usually realised that DST is on/off a few days after it happens because people complain. Otherwise all my clocks just adjust themself, I wake up whenever my alarm clock ring and that’s it. I never understood the hate for it.
- OJFord 5y agoYeah my sleeping is no where near regular enough to be worried about a forced hour lost or gained. I think the same logic that gives us different timezones would suggest summer hours (or in the limit, a continual shift) though - so perhaps we should just go the whole hog and have GMT (or whatever, doesn't matter) as a fixed global time!
- jedberg 5y agoIt's fine for adults, but kids and pets do not go by the clock, they go by the sun. It's a challenge to get them to switch.
- Thorrez 5y agoDST attempts to go by the sun. It attempts to make some fixed morning time follow sunrise. It just does it in an extremely coarse way.
- sacrosancty 5y agoMy dog learnt when she would get fed until her first daylight savings shift when she'd get all clingy and whiney for an hour wondering why dinner was late.
- derefr 5y agoMy grandfather broke his hip when he fell off a step-ladder while changing a wall clock. At the hospital, I learned that this sort of thing is not all too uncommon among the elderly, since "changing the time on a clock" seems like such a simple task that it slides right past the conscious awareness of one's own diminished physical abilities.
- drewzero1 5y agoMakes sense. I climbed on top of a file cabinet to change a clock today, on the way down I realized I should have brought a taller stool. It seemed like a simple excercise but it can be a surprisingly long way down.
- Etherlord87 5y agoIn Poland, trains literally stop for an hour when switching to standard time. Since it's during the night, it's not many trains, but still, people literally have to wait an hour, making their travel an hour longer, because of the time change. It happened to me once, I was robbed of an hour of my life due to this ridiculousness. Granted, time switching doesn't directly force trains to stop, but I imagine the risks related to the time change or just travelers' confusion is the reason why that happens.
- swader999 5y agoGood thing you didn't fly.
- Etherlord87 5y agoI imagine if the same reasoning was applied to planes, which is weighing against each-other the effects of the transport vehicle stopping and the results of updating the schedule, in this case the latter option would be considered more optimal.
- II2II 5y agoDoes this mean that trains teleport to their expected position during the switch to daylight savings time? If so, the entire world should be in awe of the technological prowess of Poland (and perhaps a bit dismayed at how they apply that technology).
- Etherlord87 5y agoThere's a problem with your proposal: What if there's a station, where the train is supposed to arrive at 2:30? Teleporting would make it skip the station, and I imagine it's one of the reasons why trains don't do that in Poland.
- bobthepanda 5y agoWhat time is the change? In the US it's normally 0200/0300 to minimize the amount of people actually affected. (When we fall back on Sunday mornings the boozy crowd treats it as an extra hour to keep partying.)
- II2II 5y agoYeah, we even have the technology for clocks to adjust themselves automatically. Which is great when everything goes according to plan. The thing is, sometimes it doesn't. I woke up awfully confused last year when I noticed my cell phone's clock (thus my alarm clock) did not agree with my microwave's clock. The time change was not supposed occur that weekend, but somehow the mobile provider confused the UK with Canada (or so the story went). Even without that error, there was always a risk of someone showing up for work early or late due to the time change simply because they were not paying attention. I never really cared for the time change. Even though there was a time when I would have preferred one over the other, at this point I would be happy enough to say "good riddance" regardless of which is decided upon.
- Wowfunhappy 5y ago> Yeah, we even have the technology for clocks to adjust themselves automatically. Which is great when everything goes according to plan. The thing is, sometimes it doesn't. I’m all for KISS but the fact that we can’t get software to do do this reliably says much more about software quality than anything else. This just isn’t complicated. We’re not talking about calculating across timezones or accounting for leap-seconds or anything like that. Just add/remove an hour on two specific days of the year.
- moistly 5y agoTwo specific days times at least two locales, because the UK and North America do it on different dates… and it’s all too likely that there are a few more variations.
- badwolf 5y agoMy cat does not seem to be aware of the arbitrarily changed numbers on my clock being different than it was last week when she's hungry and ready for breakfast.
- Salgat 5y agoAs a programmer it can create a lot of frustrating issues, especially time management around the shift which creates weird gaps in time.
- organsnyder 5y agoIt's hell for families with kids (in my experience).