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Good. NIMBYs are a huge problem, and any argument predicated on "preserving the character" is disingenuous at best and racist at worst. It's sad that legislatio

Good. NIMBYs are a huge problem, and any argument predicated on "preserving the character" is disingenuous at best and racist at worst. It's sad that legislation once designed to do so much good has been weaponized by such obstructionists.

ketzo 5y ago
If nothing else, I hope Newsom can cement an identity as the "anti-NIMBY governor." S.B. 9 [1] was a great step. This also sends a pretty stark message. [1] https://focus.senate.ca.gov/sb9 https://focus.senate.ca.gov/sb9
- MaxDPS 5y ago
  Newsom has helped pass a bunch of anti-NIMBY legislation. I know it will take some time for it to have an effect but I’m actually a bit hopeful for once.
rablackburn 5y ago
> any argument predicated on "preserving the character" is disingenuous at best and racist at worst Calling NIMBYism's "preserving the character" argument disingenuous is probably going too far. That really is the problem many NIMBYs have with proposed developments. They like their neighbourhood exactly how it is, and if they could mandate perfect stasis they would. It may not be a persuasive argument, but in many cases it is genuine.
- kaibee 5y ago
  > They like their neighbourhood exactly how it is, and if they could mandate perfect stasis they would. Y'know, if a community wants to have _perfect_ stasis like that, it should be allowed. Which of course also means that when you sell your property, any gains in land value should also be taxed away and the property's max rent should also be locked in at purchase time. This would of course, even more preserve the character of the neighborhood. Otherwise it is too convenient for NIMBYs that their policy preference also happens to align with their economic interests. (/s obviously, though a land value tax would be excellent)
  - plasticchris 5y ago
    Well their property tax does stay in perfect stasis, at least in cali ;)

ketzo 5y ago

If nothing else, I hope Newsom can cement an identity as the "anti-NIMBY governor." S.B. 9 [1] was a great step. This also sends a pretty stark message. [1] https://focus.senate.ca.gov/sb9 https://focus.senate.ca.gov/sb9

MaxDPS 5y ago
Newsom has helped pass a bunch of anti-NIMBY legislation. I know it will take some time for it to have an effect but I’m actually a bit hopeful for once.

rablackburn 5y ago

> any argument predicated on "preserving the character" is disingenuous at best and racist at worst Calling NIMBYism's "preserving the character" argument disingenuous is probably going too far. That really is the problem many NIMBYs have with proposed developments. They like their neighbourhood exactly how it is, and if they could mandate perfect stasis they would. It may not be a persuasive argument, but in many cases it is genuine.

kaibee 5y ago
> They like their neighbourhood exactly how it is, and if they could mandate perfect stasis they would. Y'know, if a community wants to have _perfect_ stasis like that, it should be allowed. Which of course also means that when you sell your property, any gains in land value should also be taxed away and the property's max rent should also be locked in at purchase time. This would of course, even more preserve the character of the neighborhood. Otherwise it is too convenient for NIMBYs that their policy preference also happens to align with their economic interests. (/s obviously, though a land value tax would be excellent)
- plasticchris 5y ago
  Well their property tax does stay in perfect stasis, at least in cali ;)