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Lies, Damn Lies and Photoshop
- jedwhite 15y agoWebsite is getting overloaded from look of it. Here is the google cache link: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:fIfQpD62vz8J:blog.timparkinson.net/2011/09/30/lies-damn-lies-and-photoshop/+timparkinson.net&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:fIfQpD6...
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- JeremyBanks 15y agoI do however find it supremely ironic that a group who is supposedly protesting about corruption and lies would produce such a blatant piece of propaganda. Especially one so readily falsifiable. The first comment is pointing out that he doesn't actually know if it's from the organizers. The author concedes that, but it doesn't seem to have stopped him from associating it with them. Do we now hold groups responsible for images that 50 of their supporters have shared on Facebook?
- rick888 15y agowell, the organizers didn't come out and say it was false, now did they.
- rick888 15y agoIt's a valid thought. it's popular enough so you know they've seen it, yet they haven't denied it or stopped spreading the propaganda.
- benwerd 15y agoDo we now hold groups responsible for images that 50 of their supporters have shared on Facebook? This. It's natural that sympathizers will have latched onto the image - but that just means they've been duped with everyone else.
- rick888 15y agowell, the organizers didn't come out and say it was false, now did they. (for some reason my other post is -1)
- cema 15y ago-1 means it still can be seen and read (and upvoted, if people feel so). A double posting is, at best, an error.
- InclinedPlane 15y ago"Do we now hold groups responsible for images that 50 of their supporters have shared on Facebook?" According to the treatment the Tea Party has received in the media and in public opinion: yes, yes we do.
- benwerd 15y agoHuh. A cynical protester, or a cynical person wanting to undermine the credibility of the protesters? Either way, sad that someone put so much effort into a fabrication. Edit: I guess Hacker News says "no".
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- fungi 15y agoreminds me of the BS chain emails my mum and her friends are constantly forwarding each other. i would personally put it down to a primitive form of karma whoring.
- sunchild 15y agoI live a few blocks away. I just walked past the park where the protesters are camped out. There are (and have been over the past few days) a small group of activists there. A lot of them seem to be playing "reporter" in front of their friends' very expensive video setups. I've seen more cops than protesters over the past week, to be honest. Maybe I'm just a grumpy old man, but this movement just turns me off. I wish it were otherwise, but the impotence of that crowd is depressing. Also, they were packed into the local McDonalds, presumably for the WiFi and corporate cow meat. Ugh.
- gerggerg 15y agoImpotence? What do you want? Thousands of people to occupy wall street for weeks? Violence? Business like advertising? It's a real bummer that you can be so demoralized by what people 'seem' to be doing. I'm glad you can vent on the internet though.
- sunchild 15y agoWell, since you asked: I want fewer people sleeping in parks and playing in drum circles and pretending to be reporters, and more people working inside the system to right its course.
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- gasull 15y ago> I want fewer people sleeping in parks and playing in drum circles What's wrong about playing the drum in a park? > pretending to be reporters They're probably reporting in their blogs and social networks. > and more people working inside the system to right its course. So the Government bails out Wall Street repeatedly, with our money, and we are supposed to work harder "inside the system" and shut up?
- jeffreymcmanus 15y agothere are plenty of people "working inside the system". that has proven ineffective.
- coryl 15y agoWas walking by there this weekend, only a couple hundred protesters occupying the area? A lot of tourists taking pictures, checking it out. Also a lot of police standing by.
- Hisoka 15y agoI work in Wall Street, and funny thing is I haven't seen a sign of 1 protestor. Maybe I'm in a very small radius, but still, it's very overwhelming. They need someone like Lady Gaga if they want more traction. They should probably consult with one of the guys from Mint.com for marketing ideas
- philwelch 15y agoI bet if Rage Against The Machine turned up for an impromptu show the protest would explode in size.
- cpeterso 15y agoRage Against The Machine (and Michael Moore) stormed the NYSE to film a music video on Wall Street in 2000: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1433553/rage-shoots-video-with-moore.jhtml http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1433553/rage-shoots-video-w...
- datums 15y agoBLOOMBERG: The protesters are protesting against people who make $40-50,000 a year and are struggling to make ends meet. really? There's more than one bubble.
- gasull 15y agoAccording to some sources, NYPD estimated the protestors in around 5,000: http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/09/30/huge-crowd-5000-occupywallstreet-protests-wave-union-support-arrives-73461/ http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/09/30/huge-crowd-5000-...
- paul9290 15y agoUsually a protest is an organized group of people opposing something for the purpose of a resolution. These people have not outlined nor have a resolution. They are just against capitalism (?). Though as noted in a comment above, they all pack into their local McDonalds for free wifi and pay to eat there, yet in doing so they are further fueling what they oppose. Seems odd to me! Can anyone here make sense of this movement?
- jeffreymcmanus 15y agoah, the "let them eat cake" argument. throughout history, there have been far less purposeful protests whose outcome has been far less "silly".
- abalone 15y agoThat pic may be ridiculous but so is the claim that there are only 100 protesters. The police have arrested eight times that alone. And since when is some guy's blog "The Media"?
- olefoo 15y agoAt the least, the people out there trying to #occupywallstreet are doing something to try to limit the power of the unelected, unaccountable, unchecked financial elites whose wealth puts them above the law and whose infinite appetite ensures they will never be satisfied until they have sold the last bit of land, eaten the last wild animal and hold the rest of humanity on a short leash of material necessity. To make things, products and services that people want and choose to buy of their own free will is an honorable path. The people out there on the street are not against those who choose that path; they are against those who want to set up one set of laws for the rich and powerful and another far harsher one for the rest of us. Whether this picture is a product of regrettable enthusiasm, or is a deliberate fraud aimed to discredit is beside the point. The fact that the space has been opened to have a conversation about the nature of power in our society at this time is the important fact worthy of note.
- cpeterso 15y agoDoes the original photo from Google Maps show the actual protesting crowd? Google Maps says the photo is copyright 2011. How often does Google Maps refresh its satellite photos? Someday they will be live, which is both cool and scary..
- jedwhite 15y agoSeems odd that this story would get flagged or moderated off the homepage so quickly. The technology issues it raises about manipulation of social media are more interesting than the politics of OWS itself.