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Fair, I read this book: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodlands https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodlands Which is well researched. The Nazis killed about
by MarkMarine 5y ago
Fair, I read this book: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodlands https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodlands
Which is well researched. The Nazis killed about 5.4 million, Russians and Stalin killed the rest of the 14 million people that died during this period
- sva_ 5y agoThis source does not seem to claim that the Russians/Stalin killed 14 million Jews, or more Jews than the Nazis did, which I doubted.
- croes 5y agohttps://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/documenting-numbers-of-victims-of-the-holocaust-and-nazi-persecution https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/documentin...
- necovek 5y agoThe Wikipedia page is pretty directly not stating that. Soviet Union was responsible for 1/3rd of the total death toll of 14M, with Nazi's Jewish victims being 5.4M. That puts the non-Jewish Nazi victims at 4M out of the total of 9.4M, and the Soviet Union victims at 4.7M (also note that this is Soviet Union of the time: while the officials behind these atrocities were likely Russian in majority, simply because Russians were majority of the population, I am certain not all of them were Russians — notably, Stalin himself was of Georgian descent). Note that all of these also cover only a particular area that were of interest to both Nazi Germany and Soviet Union (basically Western Soviet Union, Eastern Europe and Baltic states). Nazi Germany has done plenty of killings in the rest of the Europe too.
- necovek 5y agoFWIW, this is a direct quote from that Wikipedia page, which is what I based my above calculations on: > Snyder documents that Nazi Germany was responsible for about two thirds of the total number of deaths.