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I don't think it is the violence itself that solves the problem. I think it is the broader public realizing that "the CIA is engaging in acts so egregious my c
by cwkoss 5y ago
I don't think it is the violence itself that solves the problem. I think it is the broader public realizing that "the CIA is engaging in acts so egregious my countrymen think execution is morally justified" that solves the problem, by forcing them to look for more moderate solutions and prioritize their implementation.
I think 'never advocate for violence, even against more-violent greater evils' is a flawed rule because it leads to the compromise result landed closer to in favor of evil. We need the radical voices to drag the center towards effective action. (And torture is so superlatively evil that I have no moral qualms advocating for the humane execution of those who can be proven to have engaged in or ordered it).
- sneak 5y agoI don't think you persuade the segment of the population that thinks that execution is morally unjustifiable by advocating for morally justified execution, but I'm no sociologist.
- cwkoss 5y agoThat's fair, I think other readers watching us debate whether CIA torture is evil enough that state execution is justified probably has a similar effect to my goals with advocating for it in public discussion... so thanks! Hopefully we've shifted a few minds towards "something needs to be done".