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There are many kinds of "theocracy". The islamic republic of Pakistan is significantly better than Saudi Arabia. Or would your rather have them both as "rightfu
by cuteboy19 5y ago
There are many kinds of "theocracy". The islamic republic of Pakistan is significantly better than Saudi Arabia. Or would your rather have them both as "rightful Chinese territory"?
- stjohnswarts 5y agoReligious based government is bad all the way around. It leads to persecution of other religions and even sects of the same religion (Sunni vs Shia). It's a bad thing to have at the core of your government. This used to be a 1st principal in the USA but the lines are becoming blurred by alt-right ideology that is seeping into and starting to control the republican party. I really hope it has peaked and is on the down swing because there are finally some GOP people pushing back against a Trumpist coup in 2024.
- whimsicalism 5y agoSure, but are you at all familiar with the history of pre-CCP Tibet? Their "theocracy" was likely worse than Saudi Arabias, both in terms of the sorts of punishments they inflicted upon their populace (routine gouging of the eyes, chopping of the limbs, and then hanging up for display) as well as the autocratic (serf-like) structure built up.
- cuteboy19 5y agoI am more familiar with the history of pre British India. Thankfully the British "civilized" my country. Surely China will do the same to Tibet. The excuses people make for colonialism remain the same as centuries pass by.
- pasquinelli 5y agothe history between china and tibet isn't the history between britain and india.
- cuteboy19 5y agoIt is exactly the same. It is colonialism right down to the justifications
- yumraj 5y agoCould you please point me to an independent source which can confirm what you wrote, as in not Chinese/CCP propaganda to justify their invasion and occupation of Tibet. Also, looks like the Tibetan's are suffering exactly the kind of treatment as you wrote under the CCP.
- AussieWog93 5y agoProbably not the tone you're looking for, but definitely independent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYEOSCIOnrs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYEOSCIOnrs
- yongjik 5y agoAre you sure you want to do comparison? As late as 1863, captured leaders of the Taiping Rebellion were sentenced to death by slicing flesh off the body until they died. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shi_Dakai https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shi_Dakai
- whimsicalism 5y agoThis is whataboutism. No relevance to the issue at hand whatsoever.
- 1024core 5y ago.... says the person comparing Tibet to Saudi Arabia.
- whimsicalism 5y agoWhat? It was the person I was replying to making comparisons with Saudi Arabia, I was merely responding.
- 1024core 5y ago> but are you at all familiar with the history of pre-CCP Tibet? Their "theocracy" was likely worse than Saudi Arabias
- whimsicalism 5y agoYes, now read one comment up where Saudi Arabia is mentioned as a comparison with other theocracies, such as Tibet. Tibet was much more closer to SA (rigidly authoritarian, brutal punishments) than Pakistan (democratic election of leaders, less chopping off of people's limbs)
- yongjik 5y agoI'm saying that it's silly to argue that Tibetans don't deserve their own government because ancient Tibetans were horrible people, when the current alternative is Tibetans being ruled by China with its own horrible ancestors. Ancient people were horrible everywhere. It's not really an argument for anything.
- manquer 5y agoThe history of Pakistan based terrorism in india suggests otherwise. Saudi Arabia funds conservative schools of Islam all over the world , however they have yet to involve themselves in the kind of state sponsored terrorism Pakistan does. For people outside these countries i would say Saudi is definitely better
- selimthegrim 5y agoPutin threatened SA for supporting Chechens