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I don't know, it can definitely really suck having to wake up in the dark. Waking up to natural sunlight is the way. Of course the real problem is there's just

by dilap 5y ago

I don't know, it can definitely really suck having to wake up in the dark. Waking up to natural sunlight is the way. Of course the real problem is there's just not enough light in the winter. Not much we can do about that. :-)

yupper32 5y ago
It sucks more not being able to do any outdoor physical activity after work for much of the year.
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- bonzini 5y ago
  Do you finish work before 5:45pm? The sun would set earlier than that until mid January in NY, and until mid February in SF. And end-of-work would be the time you start outdoor activity, not finish it, so in practice it would be practical to do outdoor activity in the afternoon for 1 month or less.
thehappypm 5y ago
What time do you wake up? In Boston (Northernmost major metro on East Coast) the new latest sunrise would be at 8:13am, with a substantial period of twilight before then. Night will officially end at 6:32am, then astronomical twilight ends at 7:06, then officially sunrise at 8:13am. Point is you’re waking up during the dawn even if you’re waking up at 6:30 to get the kids to school.
- collegeburner 5y ago
  Lots of people wake up well before then to go lift/exercise. And looking at obesity rates in America, we could stand to change time to better suit that habit. Some of us also like sitting on our porch with a newspaper and a cup of coffee and some eggs to watch the sun come up.
  - thehappypm 5y ago
    In the northern latitudes where day length actually changes substantially nobody is doing that.
- bin_bash 5y ago
  Boston is on the Eastern edge of its time zone so it's not a great example. Seattle's latest sunrise will be almost 09:00.
  - thehappypm 5y ago
    Seattle is so far north it’s hard for there to be much daylight no matter what you do with your clocks :/
    - bin_bash 5y ago
      OK then Atlanta which is much further south would be 08:43
      - thehappypm 5y ago
        Then Georgia can join central time. Changing the clocks is nonsense.
beeboop 5y ago
$10 wifi enabled light bulb makes it easy to schedule when it turns on to help with this :)
- collegeburner 5y ago
  $10 is a lot for a light bulb. If working on computers has taught me anything, it's to not trust fancy new gadgets. I don't want some stupid box to glitch so my light doesn't work. Given what moving away from a natural "rise with the sun" schedule has done, maybe we should go back to that instead of trying to substitute.
  - zbtaylor1 5y ago
    I don't think I could roll my eyes any harder if I tried.
    - collegeburner 5y ago
      > Don't be snarky. > Please don't post shallow dismissals. HN Guidelines, https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html If you disagree, I suggest explaining why. My arguments are reasonable.
      - 93po 5y ago
        While he was snarky, expressing disdain for technology solutions to every day life problems on a website called... hacker news... is sort of counter-culture here. I get that you have some strong traditionalist views based on this and your other recent commenting, but it's also important to know your audience and that some of those views aren't going to be well received here.
      - zbtaylor1 5y ago
        Wifi light bulbs aren't fancy new gadgets. The Phillips Hue, for example, first hit the market nearly a decade ago. I'm sure there has been much development of the concept since and $10 is, for most people, very affordable. Especially the HN crowd. I can't speak to their efficacy personally, can you? Do you know for a fact that they are error prone? All makes and models? Or did you shallowly dismiss the other person's suggestion?
asdff 5y ago
I mean I had to wake up in the dark anyway during childhood even with this time. The sun would be rising as I got into school and would be set when I got through with my extracurriculars which pretty much took place indoors during the winter. This shift would actually have granted me some sunlight during the week in the winter as a child.

by dilap 5y ago

yupper32 5y ago

It sucks more not being able to do any outdoor physical activity after work for much of the year.

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bonzini 5y ago
Do you finish work before 5:45pm? The sun would set earlier than that until mid January in NY, and until mid February in SF. And end-of-work would be the time you start outdoor activity, not finish it, so in practice it would be practical to do outdoor activity in the afternoon for 1 month or less.

thehappypm 5y ago

What time do you wake up? In Boston (Northernmost major metro on East Coast) the new latest sunrise would be at 8:13am, with a substantial period of twilight before then. Night will officially end at 6:32am, then astronomical twilight ends at 7:06, then officially sunrise at 8:13am. Point is you’re waking up during the dawn even if you’re waking up at 6:30 to get the kids to school.

collegeburner 5y ago
Lots of people wake up well before then to go lift/exercise. And looking at obesity rates in America, we could stand to change time to better suit that habit. Some of us also like sitting on our porch with a newspaper and a cup of coffee and some eggs to watch the sun come up.
- thehappypm 5y ago
  In the northern latitudes where day length actually changes substantially nobody is doing that.
bin_bash 5y ago
Boston is on the Eastern edge of its time zone so it's not a great example. Seattle's latest sunrise will be almost 09:00.
- thehappypm 5y ago
  Seattle is so far north it’s hard for there to be much daylight no matter what you do with your clocks :/
  - bin_bash 5y ago
    OK then Atlanta which is much further south would be 08:43
    - thehappypm 5y ago
      Then Georgia can join central time. Changing the clocks is nonsense.

beeboop 5y ago

$10 wifi enabled light bulb makes it easy to schedule when it turns on to help with this :)

collegeburner 5y ago
$10 is a lot for a light bulb. If working on computers has taught me anything, it's to not trust fancy new gadgets. I don't want some stupid box to glitch so my light doesn't work. Given what moving away from a natural "rise with the sun" schedule has done, maybe we should go back to that instead of trying to substitute.
- zbtaylor1 5y ago
  I don't think I could roll my eyes any harder if I tried.
  - collegeburner 5y ago
    > Don't be snarky. > Please don't post shallow dismissals. HN Guidelines, https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html If you disagree, I suggest explaining why. My arguments are reasonable.
    - 93po 5y ago
      While he was snarky, expressing disdain for technology solutions to every day life problems on a website called... hacker news... is sort of counter-culture here. I get that you have some strong traditionalist views based on this and your other recent commenting, but it's also important to know your audience and that some of those views aren't going to be well received here.
    - zbtaylor1 5y ago
      Wifi light bulbs aren't fancy new gadgets. The Phillips Hue, for example, first hit the market nearly a decade ago. I'm sure there has been much development of the concept since and $10 is, for most people, very affordable. Especially the HN crowd. I can't speak to their efficacy personally, can you? Do you know for a fact that they are error prone? All makes and models? Or did you shallowly dismiss the other person's suggestion?

asdff 5y ago

I mean I had to wake up in the dark anyway during childhood even with this time. The sun would be rising as I got into school and would be set when I got through with my extracurriculars which pretty much took place indoors during the winter. This shift would actually have granted me some sunlight during the week in the winter as a child.