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Early risers can just... turn on the lights. You can't just "turn on the lights" for outdoor activities except in very specific cases. Those activities can't r

Early risers can just... turn on the lights. You can't just "turn on the lights" for outdoor activities except in very specific cases. Those activities can't really be done in the morning because people have to get ready for school/work during that time. I really don't want to waste perfectly good sunlight getting ready for work. Let me use it when it can actually be used.

freedomben 5y ago
why is "turn on the lights" good enough for early risers but not for late-to-beds or night owls? I would suggest it's because the sun is a far better light, and most people don't have the ability to light up the entire area to make it seem like daytime. Note: I'm a late-to-bed person myself, so I'm happy about this, but I want to be honest about the fact that my support for it over a permanent no DST is my personal preference being imposed on others. In the US south there's a saying, "don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining" and I try to honor that here.
- yupper32 5y ago
  > why is "turn on the lights" good enough for early risers but not for late-to-beds or night owls? I literally say my reasoning in my comment. It's much harder to light up the outdoors for outdoor activities after work/school. I can't use sunlight in the morning for anything other than a wake-up aid.
  - freedomben 5y ago
    You edited and added that after I posted my comment, because that was not there when I wrote my reply. But regardless, I still disagree. You seem to be assuming that early risers don't want to do outside activities, but that is not true. There are plenty of people that go for a run or jog, or morning hike, etc before work. At a previous company we had a rock climbing club called, "Get High in the Morning" :-D
    - Apocryphon 5y ago
      Climbing gyms are indoors anyway!
      - freedomben 5y ago
        We didn't use a gym, we climbed real rocks :-) One of the benefits of living in Utah, great rock climbing was only a 15 to 20 minute drive from the office.

freedomben 5y ago

why is "turn on the lights" good enough for early risers but not for late-to-beds or night owls? I would suggest it's because the sun is a far better light, and most people don't have the ability to light up the entire area to make it seem like daytime. Note: I'm a late-to-bed person myself, so I'm happy about this, but I want to be honest about the fact that my support for it over a permanent no DST is my personal preference being imposed on others. In the US south there's a saying, "don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining" and I try to honor that here.

yupper32 5y ago
> why is "turn on the lights" good enough for early risers but not for late-to-beds or night owls? I literally say my reasoning in my comment. It's much harder to light up the outdoors for outdoor activities after work/school. I can't use sunlight in the morning for anything other than a wake-up aid.
- freedomben 5y ago
  You edited and added that after I posted my comment, because that was not there when I wrote my reply. But regardless, I still disagree. You seem to be assuming that early risers don't want to do outside activities, but that is not true. There are plenty of people that go for a run or jog, or morning hike, etc before work. At a previous company we had a rock climbing club called, "Get High in the Morning" :-D
  - Apocryphon 5y ago
    Climbing gyms are indoors anyway!
    - freedomben 5y ago
      We didn't use a gym, we climbed real rocks :-) One of the benefits of living in Utah, great rock climbing was only a 15 to 20 minute drive from the office.