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Some of us get off at 5 and hate the effect on our mental health of always leaving work in darkness/never having any free time in the sunlight.

nemo44x 5y ago
Most people don't have this problem though. Most functional people have to wake early to get everything ready for the day. So although there isn't a perfect system, for the vast majority of people having daylight in the morning would be ideal.
- KptMarchewa 5y ago
  I don't really "get everything ready for the day". I need to take a shower, brush teeth and make coffee. It's your problem if you push everything to the morning.
  - nemo44x 5y ago
    What about getting kids ready? Commuting?
- mynameisvlad 5y ago
  Do you have a study for this? Or just your own opinion and feelings? While also anecdotal, the responses here seem to favor evenings as opposed to mornings.
  - nemo44x 5y ago
    Most people begin work at 8AM. I know that probably isn't the norm on this Website of younger skewing skewing people that can make their won hours (that includes me!) but it's true for most the country. Also people with kids - you need to get them ready and off before you go to work. Sunlight is really useful for this.
  - collegeburner 5y ago
    Computer people probably skew heavily towards night owls and young people. They also probably go outside a lot less than average so I don't really care what their preference is. This is basically an argument of everybody wanting their preferred schedule to line up with maximum sun.
    - mynameisvlad 5y ago
      Cool, then show a study which shows what everyone's preference is, or stop antagonizing people-- whose opinions you yourself said you don't care about-- for having an opinion which differs from yours. Preferably both, but the study which shows you are in the majority would be a great start.
      - nemo44x 5y ago
        Here: https://www.thrillist.com/news/nation/overflow-data-finds-the-average-time-most-americans-get-to-work https://www.thrillist.com/news/nation/overflow-data-finds-th... Most people arrive at work between 7:45AM and 8:00AM. Which means they are up at 6-6:30 probably. Having some Sun during this time is nice for most people.
        mynameisvlad 5y ago
        > Having some Sun during this time is nice for most people. Is there a study that actually proves this? That people prefer daylight in the mornings when they're an early riser? I don't think they're as correlated as you and the other person are making it seem to be.
        nemo44x 5y ago
        I think it’s the difference between high energy and low every people. Hugh energy people want to start the day actively and early. Low every and low-t people are looking for comfort and relaxation later in the day.
      - collegeburner 5y ago
collegeburner 5y ago
Move south? Even in winter, there's some time with light left after 5. I guess this is washington catering to yankees again. I shouldn't lose light to accomodate some northerner.
- giantg2 5y ago
  "Move south?" This would also address your morning light concerns.
  - collegeburner 5y ago
    Appreciate the idea, but I'm already at one of the lowest latitudes in the continental US.
    - giantg2 5y ago
      Then shouldn't twilight be starting around 5:30am-6:15am? It seems this would contradict your claim that waking up at 5-6 requires you to spend a few hours in darkness every morning, right?
      - collegeburner 5y ago
        Not for most of the year if we move up an hour. Especially not during the winter when this would apply.
        giantg2 5y ago
        Your comment was written in the present tense so I assumed it was currently happening. It would still be less than a few hours though (maybe 1.5).

nemo44x 5y ago

Most people don't have this problem though. Most functional people have to wake early to get everything ready for the day. So although there isn't a perfect system, for the vast majority of people having daylight in the morning would be ideal.

KptMarchewa 5y ago
I don't really "get everything ready for the day". I need to take a shower, brush teeth and make coffee. It's your problem if you push everything to the morning.
- nemo44x 5y ago
  What about getting kids ready? Commuting?
mynameisvlad 5y ago
Do you have a study for this? Or just your own opinion and feelings? While also anecdotal, the responses here seem to favor evenings as opposed to mornings.
- nemo44x 5y ago
  Most people begin work at 8AM. I know that probably isn't the norm on this Website of younger skewing skewing people that can make their won hours (that includes me!) but it's true for most the country. Also people with kids - you need to get them ready and off before you go to work. Sunlight is really useful for this.
- collegeburner 5y ago
  Computer people probably skew heavily towards night owls and young people. They also probably go outside a lot less than average so I don't really care what their preference is. This is basically an argument of everybody wanting their preferred schedule to line up with maximum sun.
  - mynameisvlad 5y ago
    Cool, then show a study which shows what everyone's preference is, or stop antagonizing people-- whose opinions you yourself said you don't care about-- for having an opinion which differs from yours. Preferably both, but the study which shows you are in the majority would be a great start.
    - nemo44x 5y ago
      Here: https://www.thrillist.com/news/nation/overflow-data-finds-the-average-time-most-americans-get-to-work https://www.thrillist.com/news/nation/overflow-data-finds-th... Most people arrive at work between 7:45AM and 8:00AM. Which means they are up at 6-6:30 probably. Having some Sun during this time is nice for most people.
      - mynameisvlad 5y ago
        > Having some Sun during this time is nice for most people. Is there a study that actually proves this? That people prefer daylight in the mornings when they're an early riser? I don't think they're as correlated as you and the other person are making it seem to be.
        nemo44x 5y ago
        I think it’s the difference between high energy and low every people. Hugh energy people want to start the day actively and early. Low every and low-t people are looking for comfort and relaxation later in the day.
    - collegeburner 5y ago

collegeburner 5y ago

Move south? Even in winter, there's some time with light left after 5. I guess this is washington catering to yankees again. I shouldn't lose light to accomodate some northerner.

giantg2 5y ago
"Move south?" This would also address your morning light concerns.
- collegeburner 5y ago
  Appreciate the idea, but I'm already at one of the lowest latitudes in the continental US.
  - giantg2 5y ago
    Then shouldn't twilight be starting around 5:30am-6:15am? It seems this would contradict your claim that waking up at 5-6 requires you to spend a few hours in darkness every morning, right?
    - collegeburner 5y ago
      Not for most of the year if we move up an hour. Especially not during the winter when this would apply.
      - giantg2 5y ago
        Your comment was written in the present tense so I assumed it was currently happening. It would still be less than a few hours though (maybe 1.5).