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People literally die more because of these changes. Statistically measurable increase in mortality on these days. Save lives, stop changing the clocks.
by thehappypm 5y ago
People literally die more because of these changes. Statistically measurable increase in mortality on these days. Save lives, stop changing the clocks.
- dgritsko 5y agoInteresting, I've never heard that, although it seems like it would make intuitive sense (people more tired than usual from lack of sleep?). I searched around a bit and found a couple of articles that others might find interesting: [1]: https://www.businessinsider.com/daylight-saving-time-is-deadly-2018-3 https://www.businessinsider.com/daylight-saving-time-is-dead... [2]: https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-03-12/the-dangers-of-daylight-saving-time https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-03-12/...
- ibejoeb 5y agoWhat are the modalities of these deaths? Are they a result of the time change, or are they coincident to the time change?
- thehappypm 5y agoPresumably, being late to work or more tired leads to more car crashes. Super anecdotal but I saw two horrible wrecks yesterday, when I normally see 0.
- xeromal 5y agoI'm too dumb to know what modalities means but simply, a lot of people end up with 1 hour less sleep because they're not tired at the normal time and over a population of 300+ million, more mistakes are made driving and people with poor health experience elevated stress due to lack of sleep. A non-zero amount of people pass away the day of from these issues.
- dqv 5y agoA bunch of missed healthcare appointments (not everyone uses their phone to tell the time!) happen after the change and diminishes over the following weeks.
- nobodywasishere 5y agoYes mortality increases on that day, but does not increase over the week.
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- elwell 5y agoDoes it increase by 1-hour's worth of death? If so, may be bad statistics.
- tasty_freeze 5y agoYes, more people die in the few days after the short night in the spring, but then there is a lower average mortality in the few days after that, and overall there is no net difference. Likewise in the fall, there is a slight dip in the day or two after the long night, but it washes out over the next week.
- thehappypm 5y agoSource?
- RONROC 5y agoI hate to be that guy but if you're dying because the clocks changed and it was too much of a burden for you to re-adjust (like literally everyone else does) then oh well. Policy decisions based on dodgy, whataboutism-esque figures is, in my opinion, what undergirded the incredibly incompetent COVID response here in the US, and elsewhere.
- 6chars 5y agoI suspect you don't hate to be that guy all that much
- davis_m 5y ago> if you're dying because the clocks changed and it was too much of a burden for you to re-adjust (like literally everyone else does) then oh well. It's a good thing everyone's actions take place in a bubble and have no effect on others.
- RONROC 5y agoYou strike me as one of the people in the "even if it saves one life" camp. The type of person who encounters the trolley problem and asks "can we just play a different game?"
- seangrogg 5y ago> Policy decisions based on dodgy, whataboutism-esque figures You're arguing that people should increase their exposure to acute myocardial infarction (among other concerns) to account for dodgy whataboutism-esque energy consumption figures from the 1910s and 40s-50s that have been observed to actually increase energy consumption in modern times?
- mmazing 5y agoSomehow other parts of the world (like the Netherlands) still manage to exist.
- trgn 5y agoAnd people only die more because they get run over by drivers at a higher rate. I'd say here the glaring problem is not the timekeeping, but designing our urban infrastructure for cars, so that when a person is just a teensy tiny bit more sleepy, they end up killing people by accident, rather than you know, putting on their shirt inside out and having people point and giggle. Cars pretty much make worse everything they touch, like in this case, the ability to flexibility set a clock however we see fit.
- thehappypm 5y agoIt’s also things like medical care getting screwed up. A tired surgeon is a horrible thing. And a surgeon can’t exactly go make up that lost hour easily..