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This means permanently EDT/CDT/MDT/PDT? Or would EST/CST/MST/PST all be shifted by +01:00? I am also curious if Canada or other countries would follow suit.

zht 5y ago
Ontario has already passed a bill saying that it will make DST permanent if 1) Quebec and 2) New York State make it permanent
tempestn 5y ago
At least in BC we already have legislation to do this as soon as the western states do. In Alberta it just got voted down by a very slim margin, so if the US made the switch I expect that would be enough to swing it there as well. I expect other provinces would follow suit as well, assuming the federal government didn't just make the decision for everyone (which they probably would if the whole US went to permanent DST).
- slimginz 5y ago
  Question from a dumb American: Does Canada have a lot of laws that only go into effect if the US or nearby US states do the same? I've never heard of that before.
  - tempestn 5y ago
    I can't recall any others (edit: aside from obvious things like laws relating to trade agreements or defense cooperation), but this one makes some sense to keep the time zones consistent. Also since I made that last comment I learned that Ontario has a similar plan w.r.t. NY. So it definitely appears Canada will switch when the US does.
- nullc 5y ago
  In California the law of the land is already that we'll switch to permanent DST when the federal government allows it.
slimginz 5y ago
The bill (which you can read here, it's super short: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623/text https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623...) adjusts EST/CST/MST/PST etc to be +01:00. If you dig into the bill it's referencing, it defines US timezones based on UTC so this is just adjusting the time +1 hour based on that original bill.
- Ekaros 5y ago
  Oh that will be a massive mess. So now the poor sod writing libraries have to take in account the offset changing in 2023...
SAI_Peregrinus 5y ago
The text of the bill shows the latter: EST/CST/MST/PST/HST/AKST shift by 1 hour.

zht 5y ago

Ontario has already passed a bill saying that it will make DST permanent if 1) Quebec and 2) New York State make it permanent

tempestn 5y ago

At least in BC we already have legislation to do this as soon as the western states do. In Alberta it just got voted down by a very slim margin, so if the US made the switch I expect that would be enough to swing it there as well. I expect other provinces would follow suit as well, assuming the federal government didn't just make the decision for everyone (which they probably would if the whole US went to permanent DST).

slimginz 5y ago
Question from a dumb American: Does Canada have a lot of laws that only go into effect if the US or nearby US states do the same? I've never heard of that before.
- tempestn 5y ago
  I can't recall any others (edit: aside from obvious things like laws relating to trade agreements or defense cooperation), but this one makes some sense to keep the time zones consistent. Also since I made that last comment I learned that Ontario has a similar plan w.r.t. NY. So it definitely appears Canada will switch when the US does.
nullc 5y ago
In California the law of the land is already that we'll switch to permanent DST when the federal government allows it.

slimginz 5y ago

The bill (which you can read here, it's super short: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623/text https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623...) adjusts EST/CST/MST/PST etc to be +01:00. If you dig into the bill it's referencing, it defines US timezones based on UTC so this is just adjusting the time +1 hour based on that original bill.

Ekaros 5y ago
Oh that will be a massive mess. So now the poor sod writing libraries have to take in account the offset changing in 2023...

SAI_Peregrinus 5y ago

The text of the bill shows the latter: EST/CST/MST/PST/HST/AKST shift by 1 hour.