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Umm no, I get up early and have free time before work and want light then. It's a great time to be outside because it's the coolest part of the day. Yet again s

Umm no, I get up early and have free time before work and want light then. It's a great time to be outside because it's the coolest part of the day. Yet again society accomodates the people who can't be bothered to go to bed on time.

sorenjan 5y ago
Or the people that prefer to have a contiguous time span for their leisure, instead of a couple of hours in the morning and then a few more in the evening.
- b112 5y ago
  Yet who has thought of the corn, the oat, the wheat in all of this? Who has thought of the oak and maple, the petal of the rose, the daisy? None, I suppose, and so with less light available to them, the american farmer will once again lose ground to competitors in other, more sane nations.
  - mynameisvlad 5y ago
    Corn, oat, wheat, oak, maple, rose, and daisies do not sleep, nor do they have the concept of daylight savings or standard time. They will get literally the same amount of light as before, and farmers generally will work from sunrise regardless if their clocks say 5AM or 6AM.
    - jnwatson 5y ago
      Whoosh.
  - _fkx3 5y ago
    Is this a poorly executed joke?
    - bkirkbri 5y ago
      I thought it was a well executed joke myself.
  - vgel 5y ago
    Thanks to the Ent lobby, an amendment has been proposed to this bill to keep changing the clocks specifically within the bounds of farms, orchards, timberlands, and national parks. We must keep American foliage the greatest on Earth.
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standardUser 5y ago
Please explain to us, what precisely is "on time" and why do you think that such a time is universal for all people, regardless of background or circumstance? The more detail the better please.
- collegeburner 5y ago
  "On time" is obviously whatever time somebody has to go to bed to get enough sleep and get up in time for their schedule. People don't like going to bed on time because they don't like discipline. So instead of learning some, like their parents should have taught them, they complain and demand the schedule move because it's "too hard". When I started working I had to be there at 7 AM every day no matter what so I got disciplined and grew up. Today's new hires want to come in late all the time and complain that they can't get enough sleep when they should be going to bed earlier instead of going out drinking on a weekday or staying up playing fort nite or whatever.
  - vineyardmike 5y ago
    Spend less time complaining about those whippersnappers being on your lawn and listening to rock and roll. Maybe you too could be fun and enjoy life. Is it enjoyable for most people to get up and be at work at 7? No. Why tolerate it just because parents generation tolerated it? Old people also tolerated polio. People aren’t more productive at one time versus another, especially if they’re being forced against their will to lose sleep for no good reason. There is nothing wrong with starting work later- especially if you’re still getting all your work done during the day anyways. Young people who roll into work at a healthy time probably outperform all the curmudgeony old people who are miserable anyways. I start work at 10am and get more done than coworkers who start at 7. It’s just simply false to assume earlier is better. I perform way better now than when I arrived early. We should be encouraging people to care less about their work and more about having fun. Work is not the purpose for your life. There is nothing wrong with drinking with friends on a weekday or playing Fortnite in the evening.
    - collegeburner 5y ago
yowlingcat 5y ago
Very interesting way of expressing your preference. Personally, I'm agnostic. I prefer to be an early riser most days and it does suit me better on the whole. But it's also great in the summer to have more time in the evening to socialize with my friends who work a 9-5 and are only available on weekdays after work. Do you have any friends that you would like to socialize with in the summer on weekdays after work?
- collegeburner 5y ago
  Yes sometimes we'll meet for dinner. But more often we meet for breakfast before work. This is actually very common in most of the country outside of the tech job bubble that makes up most of this site.
  - Apocryphon 5y ago
    Then meet them for dinner instead of breakfast, when you're more rushed because there is work after your meal anyway. Or simply meet them for lunch instead, as most people in the country do.
  - yowlingcat 5y ago
    And what if it’s less common than you say and you’d just have to accept that you’re in the minority here? Do you think that (right or wrong) could have anything to do with what’s going on?
vineyardmike 5y ago
Oh look another person who goes to bed too early and rises before the sun. Yet again they want society to cater to them even though the rest of society prefers to rise later in the day. I bet they’ll tell everyone else they’re lazy like my 95yo grandfather did when he woke up at 4am. /s Can’t we all just accept that everyone’s body is different and has different preferences. There is a measured Gaussian distribution in rise times for humans like everything else.
- collegeburner 5y ago
  That's unreasonably snarky. I didn't much like waking up at 4 AM when I had to. The point is, it's better to rise with the sun and still have time to get ready before work. Americans get up before 7 AM: https://www.vox.com/2016/5/10/11639214/how-people-around-the-world-sleep https://www.vox.com/2016/5/10/11639214/how-people-around-the... We should line up sunrise closer to the center of that distribution. This law does the opposite.

sorenjan 5y ago

Or the people that prefer to have a contiguous time span for their leisure, instead of a couple of hours in the morning and then a few more in the evening.

b112 5y ago
Yet who has thought of the corn, the oat, the wheat in all of this? Who has thought of the oak and maple, the petal of the rose, the daisy? None, I suppose, and so with less light available to them, the american farmer will once again lose ground to competitors in other, more sane nations.
- mynameisvlad 5y ago
  Corn, oat, wheat, oak, maple, rose, and daisies do not sleep, nor do they have the concept of daylight savings or standard time. They will get literally the same amount of light as before, and farmers generally will work from sunrise regardless if their clocks say 5AM or 6AM.
  - jnwatson 5y ago
    Whoosh.
- _fkx3 5y ago
  Is this a poorly executed joke?
  - bkirkbri 5y ago
    I thought it was a well executed joke myself.
- vgel 5y ago
  Thanks to the Ent lobby, an amendment has been proposed to this bill to keep changing the clocks specifically within the bounds of farms, orchards, timberlands, and national parks. We must keep American foliage the greatest on Earth.

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standardUser 5y ago

Please explain to us, what precisely is "on time" and why do you think that such a time is universal for all people, regardless of background or circumstance? The more detail the better please.

collegeburner 5y ago
"On time" is obviously whatever time somebody has to go to bed to get enough sleep and get up in time for their schedule. People don't like going to bed on time because they don't like discipline. So instead of learning some, like their parents should have taught them, they complain and demand the schedule move because it's "too hard". When I started working I had to be there at 7 AM every day no matter what so I got disciplined and grew up. Today's new hires want to come in late all the time and complain that they can't get enough sleep when they should be going to bed earlier instead of going out drinking on a weekday or staying up playing fort nite or whatever.
- vineyardmike 5y ago
  Spend less time complaining about those whippersnappers being on your lawn and listening to rock and roll. Maybe you too could be fun and enjoy life. Is it enjoyable for most people to get up and be at work at 7? No. Why tolerate it just because parents generation tolerated it? Old people also tolerated polio. People aren’t more productive at one time versus another, especially if they’re being forced against their will to lose sleep for no good reason. There is nothing wrong with starting work later- especially if you’re still getting all your work done during the day anyways. Young people who roll into work at a healthy time probably outperform all the curmudgeony old people who are miserable anyways. I start work at 10am and get more done than coworkers who start at 7. It’s just simply false to assume earlier is better. I perform way better now than when I arrived early. We should be encouraging people to care less about their work and more about having fun. Work is not the purpose for your life. There is nothing wrong with drinking with friends on a weekday or playing Fortnite in the evening.
  - collegeburner 5y ago

yowlingcat 5y ago

Very interesting way of expressing your preference. Personally, I'm agnostic. I prefer to be an early riser most days and it does suit me better on the whole. But it's also great in the summer to have more time in the evening to socialize with my friends who work a 9-5 and are only available on weekdays after work. Do you have any friends that you would like to socialize with in the summer on weekdays after work?

collegeburner 5y ago
Yes sometimes we'll meet for dinner. But more often we meet for breakfast before work. This is actually very common in most of the country outside of the tech job bubble that makes up most of this site.
- Apocryphon 5y ago
  Then meet them for dinner instead of breakfast, when you're more rushed because there is work after your meal anyway. Or simply meet them for lunch instead, as most people in the country do.
- yowlingcat 5y ago
  And what if it’s less common than you say and you’d just have to accept that you’re in the minority here? Do you think that (right or wrong) could have anything to do with what’s going on?

vineyardmike 5y ago

Oh look another person who goes to bed too early and rises before the sun. Yet again they want society to cater to them even though the rest of society prefers to rise later in the day. I bet they’ll tell everyone else they’re lazy like my 95yo grandfather did when he woke up at 4am. /s Can’t we all just accept that everyone’s body is different and has different preferences. There is a measured Gaussian distribution in rise times for humans like everything else.

collegeburner 5y ago
That's unreasonably snarky. I didn't much like waking up at 4 AM when I had to. The point is, it's better to rise with the sun and still have time to get ready before work. Americans get up before 7 AM: https://www.vox.com/2016/5/10/11639214/how-people-around-the-world-sleep https://www.vox.com/2016/5/10/11639214/how-people-around-the... We should line up sunrise closer to the center of that distribution. This law does the opposite.