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"making daylight savings time permanent" Isn't that just changing the time zone and abolishing daylight savings? "Senate votes" What does this mean? Does it

by dheera 5y ago

"making daylight savings time permanent" Isn't that just changing the time zone and abolishing daylight savings? "Senate votes" What does this mean? Does it take effect forever starting from today? Does Senate have authority to actually enact the change or is that some other dude that actually flips the lever?

boffinism 5y ago
"just"
tastyfreeze 5y ago
Senate is only half of the legislature. Nothing becomes law until it has passed both houses of Congress and is signed by the president. Schoolhouse Rock - Bill https://youtu.be/OgVKvqTItto https://youtu.be/OgVKvqTItto
- mbg721 5y ago
  This is all well and good until executive orders become involved.
  - wolverine876 5y ago
    Executive orders are only the use of powers given the the President previously by Congress or, through the Constitution, the people. The President has no other powers.
ss108 5y ago
House has to vote on it and POTUS has to sign.
exegete 5y ago
>Isn't that just changing the time zone and abolishing daylight savings? Yes but the clocks will now say EDT instead of EST (in the Eastern time zone for example). We will forever know that we have saved the daylight.
- cmurf 5y ago
  I don't think so... Original text for the zones: http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:15%20section:261%20edition:prelim) http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:15%20section:2... Bill amending that law: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/69/text https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/69/t... It's redefining the offsets from UTC for the zones, for standard time. And also repeals all of 15 USC 260a http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:15%20section:260a%20edition:prelim) http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:15%20section:2... a.k.a. Section 3 of the Uniform Time Act of 1966. Ergo, the 'D' in all the time zones goes away.
  - exegete 5y ago
    Oh wow it really is just redefining standard time as DST
AdamH12113 5y ago
The U.S. has a bicameral legislature and a presidential veto, so the House of Representatives would also have to vote for the same bill, then the president would have to sign it. According to the text of the bill[1], it would take effect immediately, but there would be no practical effect until November 6, when DST is scheduled to end. [1] https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623/text https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623...
- jrapdx3 5y ago
  True, that's the normal process but if the President vetoes the bill Congress can override the veto by 2/3 majority in both chambers. IIRC the Senate passed the bill unanimously. If the House passes the bill by a large majority it predicts a veto would be overridden. In such cases even if inclined to veto, the President typically acknowledges defeat and signs the bill into law.

by dheera 5y ago

boffinism 5y ago

"just"

tastyfreeze 5y ago

Senate is only half of the legislature. Nothing becomes law until it has passed both houses of Congress and is signed by the president. Schoolhouse Rock - Bill https://youtu.be/OgVKvqTItto https://youtu.be/OgVKvqTItto

mbg721 5y ago
This is all well and good until executive orders become involved.
- wolverine876 5y ago
  Executive orders are only the use of powers given the the President previously by Congress or, through the Constitution, the people. The President has no other powers.

ss108 5y ago

House has to vote on it and POTUS has to sign.

exegete 5y ago

>Isn't that just changing the time zone and abolishing daylight savings? Yes but the clocks will now say EDT instead of EST (in the Eastern time zone for example). We will forever know that we have saved the daylight.

cmurf 5y ago
I don't think so... Original text for the zones: http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:15%20section:261%20edition:prelim) http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:15%20section:2... Bill amending that law: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/69/text https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/69/t... It's redefining the offsets from UTC for the zones, for standard time. And also repeals all of 15 USC 260a http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:15%20section:260a%20edition:prelim) http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:15%20section:2... a.k.a. Section 3 of the Uniform Time Act of 1966. Ergo, the 'D' in all the time zones goes away.
- exegete 5y ago
  Oh wow it really is just redefining standard time as DST

AdamH12113 5y ago

The U.S. has a bicameral legislature and a presidential veto, so the House of Representatives would also have to vote for the same bill, then the president would have to sign it. According to the text of the bill[1], it would take effect immediately, but there would be no practical effect until November 6, when DST is scheduled to end. [1] https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623/text https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623...

jrapdx3 5y ago
True, that's the normal process but if the President vetoes the bill Congress can override the veto by 2/3 majority in both chambers. IIRC the Senate passed the bill unanimously. If the House passes the bill by a large majority it predicts a veto would be overridden. In such cases even if inclined to veto, the President typically acknowledges defeat and signs the bill into law.