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Standard Time would make more sense than DST since that would mean noon is at 12pm (give or take a few minutes depending on latitude) not 1pm.

tempestn 5y ago
And why does that matter?
- glglwty 5y ago
  It makes sunrise and sunset symmetrical
- dghughes 5y ago
  People against the twice per year time changes seem to indicate they want no man made interference. So it would make sense if that's the consensus to go with the natural rhythm of nature which is standard time.
  - tempestn 5y ago
    There are no clocks in nature. It is a completely arbitrary, man-made convention that 12:00 means the middle of the day.
HWR_14 5y ago
Noon shouldn't be at 12pm. It should be at 1pm or later.
- CogitoCogito 5y ago
  I thought what you were saying was crazy, but the etymology of "noon" interesting: https://www.etymonline.com/word/noon https://www.etymonline.com/word/noon --------------------- noon (n.) mid-12c., non "midday," in exact use, "12 o'clock p.m.," also "midday meal," from Old English non "3 o'clock p.m., the ninth hour from sunrise," also "the canonical hour of nones," from Latin nona hora "ninth hour" of daylight, by Roman and ecclesiastical reckoning about 3 p.m., from nona, fem. singular of nonus "ninth," contracted from *novenos, from novem "nine" (see nine). The sense shift from "3 p.m." to "12 p.m." began during 12c., and various reasons are given for it, such as unreliability of medieval time-keeping devices and the seasonal elasticity of the hours of daylight in northern regions. In monasteries and on holy days, fasting ended at nones, which perhaps offered another incentive to nudge it up the clock. Or perhaps the sense shift was based on an advance in the customary time of the (secular) midday meal. Whatever the cause, the meaning change from "ninth hour" to "sixth hour" seems to have been complete by 14c. (the same evolution is in Dutch noen). From 17c. to 19c., noon sometimes also meant "midnight" (the noon of the night). --------------------- Of course the meaning of the word centuries ago doesn't really matter much for what people think about the word today, but it's interesting none the less.
TomVDB 5y ago
That only matters for those who keep time with a sundial…
doodpants 5y ago
DST makes more sense simply because we are already on DST for 8 months of the year, vs. 4 months for "standard" time.

tempestn 5y ago

And why does that matter?

glglwty 5y ago
It makes sunrise and sunset symmetrical
dghughes 5y ago
People against the twice per year time changes seem to indicate they want no man made interference. So it would make sense if that's the consensus to go with the natural rhythm of nature which is standard time.
- tempestn 5y ago
  There are no clocks in nature. It is a completely arbitrary, man-made convention that 12:00 means the middle of the day.

HWR_14 5y ago

Noon shouldn't be at 12pm. It should be at 1pm or later.

CogitoCogito 5y ago
I thought what you were saying was crazy, but the etymology of "noon" interesting: https://www.etymonline.com/word/noon https://www.etymonline.com/word/noon --------------------- noon (n.) mid-12c., non "midday," in exact use, "12 o'clock p.m.," also "midday meal," from Old English non "3 o'clock p.m., the ninth hour from sunrise," also "the canonical hour of nones," from Latin nona hora "ninth hour" of daylight, by Roman and ecclesiastical reckoning about 3 p.m., from nona, fem. singular of nonus "ninth," contracted from *novenos, from novem "nine" (see nine). The sense shift from "3 p.m." to "12 p.m." began during 12c., and various reasons are given for it, such as unreliability of medieval time-keeping devices and the seasonal elasticity of the hours of daylight in northern regions. In monasteries and on holy days, fasting ended at nones, which perhaps offered another incentive to nudge it up the clock. Or perhaps the sense shift was based on an advance in the customary time of the (secular) midday meal. Whatever the cause, the meaning change from "ninth hour" to "sixth hour" seems to have been complete by 14c. (the same evolution is in Dutch noen). From 17c. to 19c., noon sometimes also meant "midnight" (the noon of the night). --------------------- Of course the meaning of the word centuries ago doesn't really matter much for what people think about the word today, but it's interesting none the less.

TomVDB 5y ago

That only matters for those who keep time with a sundial…

doodpants 5y ago

DST makes more sense simply because we are already on DST for 8 months of the year, vs. 4 months for "standard" time.