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Does this mean that I will no longer be able to smugly remind people that there is only one 's' in "daylight saving time"? It was really the only reason I coul
by technothrasher 5y ago
Does this mean that I will no longer be able to smugly remind people that there is only one 's' in "daylight saving time"? It was really the only reason I could see for keeping the biannual time change around.
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- johnboiles 5y agoThis is HN, plenty of ways to be smug around here
- Razengan 5y agoYou forgot a full stop 8^)
- fingerlocks 5y agoAlso "Orders of Magnitude" especially when it's not https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=Orders%20of%20Magnitude&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
- dheera 5y ago"making daylight savings time permanent" Isn't that just changing the time zone and abolishing daylight savings? "Senate votes" What does this mean? Does it take effect forever starting from today? Does Senate have authority to actually enact the change or is that some other dude that actually flips the lever?
- boffinism 5y ago"just"
- tastyfreeze 5y agoSenate is only half of the legislature. Nothing becomes law until it has passed both houses of Congress and is signed by the president. Schoolhouse Rock - Bill https://youtu.be/OgVKvqTItto https://youtu.be/OgVKvqTItto
- mbg721 5y agoThis is all well and good until executive orders become involved.
- wolverine876 5y agoExecutive orders are only the use of powers given the the President previously by Congress or, through the Constitution, the people. The President has no other powers.
- ss108 5y agoHouse has to vote on it and POTUS has to sign.
- exegete 5y ago>Isn't that just changing the time zone and abolishing daylight savings? Yes but the clocks will now say EDT instead of EST (in the Eastern time zone for example). We will forever know that we have saved the daylight.
- cmurf 5y agoI don't think so... Original text for the zones: http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:15%20section:261%20edition:prelim) http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:15%20section:2... Bill amending that law: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/69/text https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/69/t... It's redefining the offsets from UTC for the zones, for standard time. And also repeals all of 15 USC 260a http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:15%20section:260a%20edition:prelim) http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:15%20section:2... a.k.a. Section 3 of the Uniform Time Act of 1966. Ergo, the 'D' in all the time zones goes away.
- exegete 5y agoOh wow it really is just redefining standard time as DST
- AdamH12113 5y agoThe U.S. has a bicameral legislature and a presidential veto, so the House of Representatives would also have to vote for the same bill, then the president would have to sign it. According to the text of the bill[1], it would take effect immediately, but there would be no practical effect until November 6, when DST is scheduled to end. [1] https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623/text https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623...
- jrapdx3 5y agoTrue, that's the normal process but if the President vetoes the bill Congress can override the veto by 2/3 majority in both chambers. IIRC the Senate passed the bill unanimously. If the House passes the bill by a large majority it predicts a veto would be overridden. In such cases even if inclined to veto, the President typically acknowledges defeat and signs the bill into law.
- munk-a 5y agoStop dreaming - we didn't allow that level of pedantry even when DST was a thing. "Daylight savings time" might be an eggcorn - but it's more accepted in conversation than "daylight saving time" at this point.
- CoastalCoder 5y agoI have an armchair-theory that different pronunciations require different amounts of work, and that the less-effort versions win over time. Particularly certain transitions from one syllable to the next. Maybe not a great example, but "savings-time" seems to require slightly less work than "saving-time". At least for me.
- munk-a 5y agoAs uh bahn an bread Bahstunian I'd ahgue dat reginal dieuhlecks ken cause ovahuhl drifs in prahnunciashen ohvah time. Baht thas jus me. Diffrin fraysus will folluh da culltrull kahntexts dey ehmehged frahm. I think you're mostly right though.
- thehappypm 5y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time I mean, “Daylight savings time” is a commonly used term. At some point it just becomes accepted as a valid alternative.
- ant6n 5y agoIt depends on whether you have a prescriptive or descriptive view of the language. Usually, smug people who enjoy correcting other’s speech lean prescriptive.
- Brian_K_White 5y agoI will take those smug corrections over letting "literally" happen.
- singingboyo 5y agoThat's just like, literally your opinion, man. I get it, sort of. In that case I just tell myself "it's hyperbole for lazy people" and move on. "Could care less", though, that one I cannot reconcile.
- jazzyjackson 5y agoI reckon there's an implied sarcasm of "As If", that is: "as if I could care any less"
- sundarurfriend 5y agoThis is going to be my headcanon for why people do this (though it's more likely laziness/carelessness). This usage seems to be becoming more and more common, so this will help me pretend it makes sense and move on.
- dllthomas 5y ago
- melling 5y agoAnyway, now you can help stop people from sayings “anyways”
- dexterdog 5y agoDon't worry. You still have hot water heaters.
- exegete 5y agoNow when people write the time in the format 9:00 EST you can smugly correct them that it should always be EDT (for Eastern time zone).
- schoen 5y agoMaybe the legislators will make things even more confusing by defining daylight time as "standard time"! (Because it will be the, well, standard time.)
- mark-r 5y agoIf the bill is already passed it would be too late, unless it goes to committee to reconcile with the house. Or maybe they've already done it!
- exegete 5y agoSomeone linked to the bill and it actually does that https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30689043&p=4#30690481 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30689043&p=4#30690481
- thereddaikon 5y agoAh yes, Eastern Dtime Tzone.
- johnwalkr 5y agoday light’s saving’s time
- ryanmcbride 5y agoDon't worry I'm sure you can find something else to be pendantic about
- omgwtf1000 5y agoHaha, one of my favorites too. Another one is Driver License.