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I can understand the concern of other posters about going to DST as opposed to standard time... but at this point, I just want the switching to end. It is such

I can understand the concern of other posters about going to DST as opposed to standard time... but at this point, I just want the switching to end. It is such an unnecessary disruption and fixing it seems so trivial.

nemo44x 5y ago
It's total necessary and a great design. Without this then it would be dark until 8:30 in the morning during winter and the other way the Sun would rise at 4:30AM. These are both bad outcomes so we adjust the clocks so optimize these.
- barrucadu 5y ago
  > These are both bad outcomes Why?
  - nemo44x 5y ago
    Because having the Sun rise at 8:30 is really late. We waste energy and secondly people are spending 2 hours of their morning in the dark. Having the Sun rise at 4:30 is bad because it's just too early to get up and makes for poor sleep. Having the Sun set later in the day is better in this case.
    - maerF0x0 5y ago
      whats 9:30 vs 8:30? Just a label. Work when the sun is up, call that 9AM. Wake up at X AM so you can get to work on time. It's all just a label, so long as humans can agree.
      - nemo44x 5y ago
        For a lot of people it's the difference between having a job and being fired. Try telling your boss that you're coming in at 9:30 because it's just a number.
        Apocryphon 5y ago
        Make chronotypes into a protected class and institute national flex-time.
        maerF0x0 5y ago
        i guess this is where we post /r/antiwork or other great resignation or something. But yeah I hear you, some people can be so unreasonable. Nonetheless we should refuse to design our society around unreasonable people.
- freedrock87 5y ago
  The Sun isn't rising any earlier since DST is being changed for the summer
gspr 5y ago
Is it really such a disruption? People fly across timezones all the time. Daylight savings and return to normal happen twice per year at entirely predictable times, and are modest changes – is it really so hard?

nemo44x 5y ago

It's total necessary and a great design. Without this then it would be dark until 8:30 in the morning during winter and the other way the Sun would rise at 4:30AM. These are both bad outcomes so we adjust the clocks so optimize these.

barrucadu 5y ago
> These are both bad outcomes Why?
- nemo44x 5y ago
  Because having the Sun rise at 8:30 is really late. We waste energy and secondly people are spending 2 hours of their morning in the dark. Having the Sun rise at 4:30 is bad because it's just too early to get up and makes for poor sleep. Having the Sun set later in the day is better in this case.
  - maerF0x0 5y ago
    whats 9:30 vs 8:30? Just a label. Work when the sun is up, call that 9AM. Wake up at X AM so you can get to work on time. It's all just a label, so long as humans can agree.
    - nemo44x 5y ago
      For a lot of people it's the difference between having a job and being fired. Try telling your boss that you're coming in at 9:30 because it's just a number.
      - Apocryphon 5y ago
        Make chronotypes into a protected class and institute national flex-time.
      - maerF0x0 5y ago
        i guess this is where we post /r/antiwork or other great resignation or something. But yeah I hear you, some people can be so unreasonable. Nonetheless we should refuse to design our society around unreasonable people.
freedrock87 5y ago
The Sun isn't rising any earlier since DST is being changed for the summer

gspr 5y ago

Is it really such a disruption? People fly across timezones all the time. Daylight savings and return to normal happen twice per year at entirely predictable times, and are modest changes – is it really so hard?