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Does the house need to pass it? Will the president veto it? When can I literally set my clock to this?

paxys 5y ago
> Does the house need to pass it? Yes > Will the president veto it? No > When can I literally set my clock to this? 2023 at the earliest, but probably much later, if ever. The legislative process is not known to move quickly.
- rurp 5y ago
  Can you expand on why you don't think this will go into effect soon? This is the first I've heard of this bill but given the unanimous passage in the Senste it seems odd that it would fail in the House. Also, IIRC, bills must originate in the House, which makes me think something like this has already passed there at some point.
  - paxys 5y ago
    I believe this is an equivalent house bill – https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/69/all-actions https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/69/a..., and it doesn't look like there has been any progress on it in over a year. > Also, IIRC, bills must originate in the House Only those related to revenue
    - shadowfacts 5y ago
      Until today, the Senate bill also hadn't seen any progress in over a year: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623 https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623 Now that the Senate's passed it, I think there'll be enough momentum for the House to take it up relatively soon.
  - blendergeek 5y ago
    This bill "originated" in the Senate. Bills only have to originate in the House if they raise taxes [0]. All other bills can originate in either the House or the Senate. While there is a virtually identical piece of legislation in the House that pre-dates this one, it has not passed the House yet. [0] https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/article-1/#article-1-section-7-clause-1 https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/article-1/#ar...
mywittyname 5y ago
It's veto-proof anyway. A lot of states have already passed similar laws and are merely waiting on the Federal law to come into effect. So it's likely to become law soon.
- llbeansandrice 5y ago
  iirc states can only choose to either participate in the biannual time-change or to be on standard time year-round.
- verve_rat 5y ago
  How does that work? I'm not an American, but I've heard the stories about some state that has three timezone because of an Indian reservation and some other stuff. I was under the impression that daylight savings was a state matter. Don't some states currently not observe DST while their neighbours do? What is the federal government's role in this? Can a state ignore this (almost) law and do DST anyway?
  - henryfjordan 5y ago
    There is some good context here: https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_7,_Legislative_Power_to_Change_Daylight_Saving_Time_Measure_(2018) https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_7,_Legislativ...
    - verve_rat 5y ago
      Awesome, thanks for that.

> Does the house need to pass it? Yes > Will the president veto it? No > When can I literally set my clock to this? 2023 at the earliest, but probably much later, if ever. The legislative process is not known to move quickly.

rurp 5y ago
Can you expand on why you don't think this will go into effect soon? This is the first I've heard of this bill but given the unanimous passage in the Senste it seems odd that it would fail in the House. Also, IIRC, bills must originate in the House, which makes me think something like this has already passed there at some point.
- paxys 5y ago
  I believe this is an equivalent house bill – https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/69/all-actions https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/69/a..., and it doesn't look like there has been any progress on it in over a year. > Also, IIRC, bills must originate in the House Only those related to revenue
  - shadowfacts 5y ago
    Until today, the Senate bill also hadn't seen any progress in over a year: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623 https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623 Now that the Senate's passed it, I think there'll be enough momentum for the House to take it up relatively soon.
- blendergeek 5y ago
  This bill "originated" in the Senate. Bills only have to originate in the House if they raise taxes [0]. All other bills can originate in either the House or the Senate. While there is a virtually identical piece of legislation in the House that pre-dates this one, it has not passed the House yet. [0] https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/article-1/#article-1-section-7-clause-1 https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/article-1/#ar...

mywittyname 5y ago

It's veto-proof anyway. A lot of states have already passed similar laws and are merely waiting on the Federal law to come into effect. So it's likely to become law soon.

llbeansandrice 5y ago
iirc states can only choose to either participate in the biannual time-change or to be on standard time year-round.
verve_rat 5y ago
How does that work? I'm not an American, but I've heard the stories about some state that has three timezone because of an Indian reservation and some other stuff. I was under the impression that daylight savings was a state matter. Don't some states currently not observe DST while their neighbours do? What is the federal government's role in this? Can a state ignore this (almost) law and do DST anyway?
- henryfjordan 5y ago
  There is some good context here: https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_7,_Legislative_Power_to_Change_Daylight_Saving_Time_Measure_(2018) https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_7,_Legislativ...
  - verve_rat 5y ago
    Awesome, thanks for that.