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Won’t take effect until 2023, but good to see it happen.

waynecochran 5y ago
Can you explain to me why this is good. It seems like a pain, but I assume there must be a good reason for it. Does it truly save energy? Is this documented somewhere?
- emodendroket 5y ago
  Changing the clocks is a lot of hassle for dubious benefit.
- dijit 5y ago
  it's good that it's going away because switching DST to ST or vice-versa is correlated with a huge economic deficit and an influx of health issues. The severe disruption in schedules is correlated with triggering depressive episodes (great when we're going into winter!) and increase in obesity. What's more: the fact that we all do it syncronously and it negatively affects our mood means that there's a "DST meanness" wave that washes over cities during autumn and spring.
  - tsimionescu 5y ago
    > It's good that it's going away because switching DST to ST or vice-versa is correlated with a huge economic deficit and an influx of health issues. It's not "and vice versa" - the change to DST has a slight negative effect, the change to ST has a similar slight positive effect on these indicators.
    - dijit 5y ago
      I really do not care enough to argue for and against either one. Neither should you, because this discussion will be used as a justification to retain the status quo and I do not accept that either solution is worse than the status quo.
      - tsimionescu 5y ago
        Well, my point was that the status quo wasn't necessarily as bad as it was presented.
        dijit 5y ago
        Oh. Well I disagree quite strongly. I have difficulty articulating exactly how much I dislike any time shifting from beneath me. I find as I grow older that I’m more OK with it, but I need only remember how I felt as a kid to realise how absolutely insane and arbitrary it is. Then I remember that after we “spring forward” I always feel like ass for a week, and so does everyone else. It’s like some kind of weird game theory, nobody is willing to remove it because: “we’ve always done it this way” is a dangerous amount of ignorance to apply to a global population.
- kube-system 5y ago
  The purpose of DST was to give people extra daylight time during the summer when people wanted to do things outside and needed the sun to do it. Like working their fields, etc. It’s not as necessary now that we have electric lighting and farm tractors.
  - kwhitefoot 5y ago
    Farmers used to work according to the weather and the sun regardless of what the clock said.
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- micromacrofoot 5y ago
  extra hour of daylight after work in the north, during the winter the sun sets at 4pm in some places
- selfportrait 5y ago
  “In Sweden, researchers found an average 6.7 percent greater risk of heart attack in the three days after the spring change. Inspired by that finding, a group of U.S. researchers conducted their own study and determined that heart attack risk jumped 24 percent the Monday after switching over to daylight saving time. That risk then tapered off over the remainder of the week. By contrast, risk for heart attack dropped 21 percent on the Tuesday after the fall time change.” https://www.heart.org/en/news/2018/10/26/can-daylight-saving-time-hurt-the-heart-prepare-now-for-spring https://www.heart.org/en/news/2018/10/26/can-daylight-saving... “A study of 732,000 accidents over two decades has found that the annual switch to daylight saving time is associated with a 6% increase in fatal car crashes that week.” https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/01/200130144410.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/01/200130144410.h...

Can you explain to me why this is good. It seems like a pain, but I assume there must be a good reason for it. Does it truly save energy? Is this documented somewhere?

emodendroket 5y ago
Changing the clocks is a lot of hassle for dubious benefit.
dijit 5y ago
it's good that it's going away because switching DST to ST or vice-versa is correlated with a huge economic deficit and an influx of health issues. The severe disruption in schedules is correlated with triggering depressive episodes (great when we're going into winter!) and increase in obesity. What's more: the fact that we all do it syncronously and it negatively affects our mood means that there's a "DST meanness" wave that washes over cities during autumn and spring.
- tsimionescu 5y ago
  > It's good that it's going away because switching DST to ST or vice-versa is correlated with a huge economic deficit and an influx of health issues. It's not "and vice versa" - the change to DST has a slight negative effect, the change to ST has a similar slight positive effect on these indicators.
  - dijit 5y ago
    I really do not care enough to argue for and against either one. Neither should you, because this discussion will be used as a justification to retain the status quo and I do not accept that either solution is worse than the status quo.
    - tsimionescu 5y ago
      Well, my point was that the status quo wasn't necessarily as bad as it was presented.
      - dijit 5y ago
        Oh. Well I disagree quite strongly. I have difficulty articulating exactly how much I dislike any time shifting from beneath me. I find as I grow older that I’m more OK with it, but I need only remember how I felt as a kid to realise how absolutely insane and arbitrary it is. Then I remember that after we “spring forward” I always feel like ass for a week, and so does everyone else. It’s like some kind of weird game theory, nobody is willing to remove it because: “we’ve always done it this way” is a dangerous amount of ignorance to apply to a global population.
kube-system 5y ago
The purpose of DST was to give people extra daylight time during the summer when people wanted to do things outside and needed the sun to do it. Like working their fields, etc. It’s not as necessary now that we have electric lighting and farm tractors.
- kwhitefoot 5y ago
  Farmers used to work according to the weather and the sun regardless of what the clock said.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
micromacrofoot 5y ago
extra hour of daylight after work in the north, during the winter the sun sets at 4pm in some places
selfportrait 5y ago
“In Sweden, researchers found an average 6.7 percent greater risk of heart attack in the three days after the spring change. Inspired by that finding, a group of U.S. researchers conducted their own study and determined that heart attack risk jumped 24 percent the Monday after switching over to daylight saving time. That risk then tapered off over the remainder of the week. By contrast, risk for heart attack dropped 21 percent on the Tuesday after the fall time change.” https://www.heart.org/en/news/2018/10/26/can-daylight-saving-time-hurt-the-heart-prepare-now-for-spring https://www.heart.org/en/news/2018/10/26/can-daylight-saving... “A study of 732,000 accidents over two decades has found that the annual switch to daylight saving time is associated with a 6% increase in fatal car crashes that week.” https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/01/200130144410.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/01/200130144410.h...