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> I don't think anyone should use or recommend these Google services, especially when they have been SO inconsistent about the life, longevity and future of the

> I don't think anyone should use or recommend these Google services, especially when they have been SO inconsistent about the life, longevity and future of their products. Can we also say the same thing for GKE and Google Cloud since it is also a Google service?

mdoms 5y ago
Yes. Obviously.
ghusto 5y ago
I think so, yes. I remember reading that the future of Google Cloud was to be determined from how well they did this year. Of course, I'm too lazy to find the source now, but I remember it was here in Hacker News.
- mrep 5y ago
  Google cloud is at about 20 billion in revenue per year and growing 45% YOY [0] and you think they might just shutter it based on a HN comment? [0]: https://www.fiercetelecom.com/platforms/google-cloud-revenue-jumps-45-but-profit-still-elusive https://www.fiercetelecom.com/platforms/google-cloud-revenue...
  - ghusto 5y ago
    Ha! So they're doing alright then! To clarify the context though, it wasn't a comment, but what was supposed to be an internal memo. However, since I can't find a single trace of this either here or elsewhere, I retract my comment and admit I may just have had too much crack one night.
dsr_ 5y ago
Yes. Google's behavior has convinced me that it's perfectly OK to use their services, as long as you don't rely on them. They may terminate your account at no notice, or announce that a service is shutting down or adopting an unworkable pricing scheme at what would be reasonable notice to an individual, but is not acceptable to a business. The worst things seem to happen randomly. They happen to a small percentage, perhaps even a small absolute number of their customers -- but they do happen, and there is no recourse.
TrainedMonkey 5y ago
I would expect that projects that are rapidly growing and profitable to be relatively safe from Google's we-don't-wanna-do-this-anymore hammer.
- verve_rat 5y ago
  But not safe from their account based shenanigans.
forgetfulness 5y ago
Google Cloud is a whole different game. If they have shut down any service there I can't remember. But it's generally a bad idea to rely in any capacity on products marketed to consumers (not B2B) by Google, even Workspace I feel iffy on using, as you can be locked out on everything at any time.
- TurningCanadian 5y ago
  They have raised prices a number of times though. That can be its own challenge, and something you don't experience with AWS. https://www.reddit.com/r/kubernetes/comments/fdgblk/google_gke_to_introduce_management_fees_by_june/ https://www.reddit.com/r/kubernetes/comments/fdgblk/google_g... https://cloud.google.com/storage/pricing-announce https://cloud.google.com/storage/pricing-announce

mdoms 5y ago

Yes. Obviously.

ghusto 5y ago

I think so, yes. I remember reading that the future of Google Cloud was to be determined from how well they did this year. Of course, I'm too lazy to find the source now, but I remember it was here in Hacker News.

mrep 5y ago
Google cloud is at about 20 billion in revenue per year and growing 45% YOY [0] and you think they might just shutter it based on a HN comment? [0]: https://www.fiercetelecom.com/platforms/google-cloud-revenue-jumps-45-but-profit-still-elusive https://www.fiercetelecom.com/platforms/google-cloud-revenue...
- ghusto 5y ago
  Ha! So they're doing alright then! To clarify the context though, it wasn't a comment, but what was supposed to be an internal memo. However, since I can't find a single trace of this either here or elsewhere, I retract my comment and admit I may just have had too much crack one night.

dsr_ 5y ago

Yes. Google's behavior has convinced me that it's perfectly OK to use their services, as long as you don't rely on them. They may terminate your account at no notice, or announce that a service is shutting down or adopting an unworkable pricing scheme at what would be reasonable notice to an individual, but is not acceptable to a business. The worst things seem to happen randomly. They happen to a small percentage, perhaps even a small absolute number of their customers -- but they do happen, and there is no recourse.

TrainedMonkey 5y ago

I would expect that projects that are rapidly growing and profitable to be relatively safe from Google's we-don't-wanna-do-this-anymore hammer.

verve_rat 5y ago
But not safe from their account based shenanigans.

forgetfulness 5y ago

Google Cloud is a whole different game. If they have shut down any service there I can't remember. But it's generally a bad idea to rely in any capacity on products marketed to consumers (not B2B) by Google, even Workspace I feel iffy on using, as you can be locked out on everything at any time.

TurningCanadian 5y ago
They have raised prices a number of times though. That can be its own challenge, and something you don't experience with AWS. https://www.reddit.com/r/kubernetes/comments/fdgblk/google_gke_to_introduce_management_fees_by_june/ https://www.reddit.com/r/kubernetes/comments/fdgblk/google_g... https://cloud.google.com/storage/pricing-announce https://cloud.google.com/storage/pricing-announce