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>Are you saying that it's right or unacceptable from anyone? Are you asking for my personal opinion, the opinion of college administration, the opinion of stud

by YATA0 5y ago

>Are you saying that it's right or unacceptable from anyone? Are you asking for my personal opinion, the opinion of college administration, the opinion of student bodies, etc.? >Because it sounds like you are trying to turn it into whataboutism. It's not whataboutism because campus leftists have been doing exactly what the OP described: "But jeering, booing and taunting, that’s a step too far. That no longer protesting a speaker as part of a free debate, but instead attacking them as an individual in the hopes of cowing them into submission." That's the MO for campus "cancel culture".

happymellon 5y ago
I'm asking for your opinion, because you are trying to distract from unacceptable behaviour by saying "but the left..." > It's not whataboutism because campus leftists Thank you for confirming that you are unable to have discourse without blaming people uninvolved in the situation via whataboutism.
- YATA0 5y ago
  >I'm asking for your opinion Students should be cordial and have spirited debate free of jeering and taunting. That used to be the standard. >because you are trying to distract from unacceptable behaviour by saying "but the left..." This is a non sequitur. I am not trying to distract anyone, I'm pointing out that if the standard is to exclude those who jeer, taunt, and attack the individual in the hopes of cowing them into submission, then this would lead to large portions of campus leftist being punished. >Thank you for confirming That wasn't a confirmation, you literally proved my point for me. >unable to have discourse without blaming people uninvolved in the situation via whataboutism. This is by definition not whataboutism because I am not attempting to discredit the OPs position. QED. Thank you for confirming that you are incapable of having discourse because you are incapable of understanding basic concepts like whataboutism and are T R I G G E R E D because someone called out leftists as those partaking in unacceptable behavior.

by YATA0 5y ago

happymellon 5y ago

I'm asking for your opinion, because you are trying to distract from unacceptable behaviour by saying "but the left..." > It's not whataboutism because campus leftists Thank you for confirming that you are unable to have discourse without blaming people uninvolved in the situation via whataboutism.

YATA0 5y ago
>I'm asking for your opinion Students should be cordial and have spirited debate free of jeering and taunting. That used to be the standard. >because you are trying to distract from unacceptable behaviour by saying "but the left..." This is a non sequitur. I am not trying to distract anyone, I'm pointing out that if the standard is to exclude those who jeer, taunt, and attack the individual in the hopes of cowing them into submission, then this would lead to large portions of campus leftist being punished. >Thank you for confirming That wasn't a confirmation, you literally proved my point for me. >unable to have discourse without blaming people uninvolved in the situation via whataboutism. This is by definition not whataboutism because I am not attempting to discredit the OPs position. QED. Thank you for confirming that you are incapable of having discourse because you are incapable of understanding basic concepts like whataboutism and are T R I G G E R E D because someone called out leftists as those partaking in unacceptable behavior.