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They have the ability to turn off their pain entirely so it’s less of a miracle than if they were experiencing it.
by suifbwish 5y ago
They have the ability to turn off their pain entirely so it’s less of a miracle than if they were experiencing it.
- justinpowers 5y agoThey don’t “turn off” pain. Likely, they either objectify it (i.e. dispassionately observe the experience of pain) or ignore it (i.e. focus on a separate sensation) or dilute it (i.e. focus on “nothing” or alternatively, the all-encompassing sensation of “being”, the “now”, so that the experience of the pain is not the sole focus of their attention).
- emptysongglass 5y agoIf the sense door of anatta [1] I walked through almost a decade ago now is any indication it's the former. The pain is still pain and as vivid but because not-you there's no clinging therefore no suffering. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anattā https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anattā
- joeberon 5y ago
- bena 5y agoThey are experiencing it. Just because you aren't letting the pain dictate your actions, it doesn't mean you aren't experiencing it. It's about not letting your reflexes override your control.
- treeman79 5y agoIt’s absolutely shocking how much pain you can be in before losing control if your willpower is strong enough.
- emptysongglass 5y agoThere's no control to lose. There's no one suffering. The willpower to arrive at the experience is shocking but there's no sustaining of will once arrived at.
- pvaldes 5y ago> It’s shocking how much pain you can be in if your willpower is strong enough. Or you are drugged with something strong enough. A much simpler explanation that doesn't require to believe in guys developing supernatural superpowers.
- treeman79 5y agoI was speaking from personal experience. Including having my insides burned away for multiple minutes without numbing agent. Stupid doctor. Really bad kidney stone comes somewhat close to that. Or severe nerve damage that causes every waking moment to be a nightmare. That one isn’t Not as bad acute as kidney pain. But it lasts a long time and doctors always think your faking. One can build up a lot of tolerance.
- pvaldes 5y agoI'm sorry for your experience. Colon cancer treatment, I guess?. Hope you are better now.
- treeman79 5y agoPoison. Clots, vascular and nerve damage
- pvaldes 5y agoWow, horrible experience then. I don't know what to say, frankly. Some vascular problems can be fixed with surgery and some nerve damages can repair itself, even if is a frustrating slow process. Hope you the best in your recovery. Stay connected here if you need to talk.