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Is that assuming every view watched the entire four hour video? Highly doubt that, even if all views were from subscribers.

netizen-936824 5y ago
How much of the video gets loaded/buffered when someone only watches 15m or so?
- Saris 5y ago
  Usually seems about 30 seconds ahead in my experience.
gnicholas 5y ago
The question is when a "view" is determined to have accrued. It's possible there are many more partial views that aren't counted, or that they're somehow aggregating partial views into full 'views' for the purposes of their calculations.
phphphphp 5y ago
I definitely believe that paying subscribers would, on average, watch most of the video. There are popular creators publishing 3+ hour videos on YouTube, for free, generating millions of views from viewers watching most of the content... so paying subscribers doing the same is very much within the realms of possibility.
- thebean11 5y ago
  > There are popular creators publishing 3+ hour videos on YouTube, for free, generating millions of views from viewers watching most of the content. That doesn't really contradict what I'm saying does it? Are you claiming that most subscribers watch most of the videos they watch? I'd be interested in seeing that stat for 3 hour videos!
- panzagl 5y ago
  I think the GPs point is that even if you watch the whole video, it probably takes you several sessions (i.e. 'views') to do so.
HillRat 5y ago
Her previous Vimeo charge ($200/year) equates to about 8min/video on a commercial CDN, so you can tweak the assumptions to figure out what that would look like under different scenarios. The key takeaway, I think, is that (A) she's an edge case, but (B) she's probably also a bellwether for what we're going to continue to see, which is a slow end to the subsidized free-riding that's both spurred online creativity and made certain services (hello, Uber!) artificially attractive. Vimeo was either going to have to monetize video-minutes (which breaks their enterprise value prop and forces them to compete with YouTube and other streamers, which in turn requires a whole new set of corporate core competencies), or control costs on the low-end tiers by shedding low- or negative-margin customers. We're going to see a lot more of this moving forward, I imagine, as valuations start slumping.

netizen-936824 5y ago

How much of the video gets loaded/buffered when someone only watches 15m or so?

Saris 5y ago
Usually seems about 30 seconds ahead in my experience.

gnicholas 5y ago

The question is when a "view" is determined to have accrued. It's possible there are many more partial views that aren't counted, or that they're somehow aggregating partial views into full 'views' for the purposes of their calculations.

phphphphp 5y ago

I definitely believe that paying subscribers would, on average, watch most of the video. There are popular creators publishing 3+ hour videos on YouTube, for free, generating millions of views from viewers watching most of the content... so paying subscribers doing the same is very much within the realms of possibility.

thebean11 5y ago
> There are popular creators publishing 3+ hour videos on YouTube, for free, generating millions of views from viewers watching most of the content. That doesn't really contradict what I'm saying does it? Are you claiming that most subscribers watch most of the videos they watch? I'd be interested in seeing that stat for 3 hour videos!
panzagl 5y ago
I think the GPs point is that even if you watch the whole video, it probably takes you several sessions (i.e. 'views') to do so.

HillRat 5y ago

Her previous Vimeo charge ($200/year) equates to about 8min/video on a commercial CDN, so you can tweak the assumptions to figure out what that would look like under different scenarios. The key takeaway, I think, is that (A) she's an edge case, but (B) she's probably also a bellwether for what we're going to continue to see, which is a slow end to the subsidized free-riding that's both spurred online creativity and made certain services (hello, Uber!) artificially attractive. Vimeo was either going to have to monetize video-minutes (which breaks their enterprise value prop and forces them to compete with YouTube and other streamers, which in turn requires a whole new set of corporate core competencies), or control costs on the low-end tiers by shedding low- or negative-margin customers. We're going to see a lot more of this moving forward, I imagine, as valuations start slumping.