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So I guess there are no good options anymore. I always liked Vimeo, but what’s the alternative now? If you use YouTube, you’re at risk of some weird bot decidin

by jb1991 5y ago

So I guess there are no good options anymore. I always liked Vimeo, but what’s the alternative now? If you use YouTube, you’re at risk of some weird bot deciding to deactivate your account without notice. Seems like there’s just no good options anymore for indie video creators. Are there?

pmoriarty 5y ago
PeerTube: https://joinpeertube.org/ https://joinpeertube.org/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30445497 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30445497
- jb1991 5y ago
  The comments in that thread are somewhat persuasive that it would not be the most appropriate choice for most video creatives.
- awiesenhofer 5y ago
  > https://joinpeertube.org/ https://joinpeertube.org/ That frontpage alone though... and no inplace search, it tries to open a popup to a completely different url doing the actual search, why!? If they want to be an alternative to anything make it ie. peertube.org, with integrated searching and show me the top X trending videos on the frontpage to showcase the content on the platform and suck me in!
anotherman554 5y ago
If you already have an audience you can upload a file directly to the Internet and link to it from your Patreon.
- jb1991 5y ago
  And where would you propose to upload it to? Video hosting is not cheap for heavy video streaming.
  - Nextgrid 5y ago
    Serious question - dedicated servers/VPSes with unmetered bandwidth are still a thing. Get a few of those, point your DNS name at all of them (for redundancy & load balancing) and rsync/FTP your files to all of them. I can see this being a problem with viral, publicly-available content, but for subscription-only content the traffic patterns should be relatively predictable and capped. Am I missing something?
    - villaaston1 5y ago
      Yes, all those cheap servers and VPS with “unlimited” bandwidth have fair use policies and qos metering that will likely be very similar to vimeo’s. They certainly don’t mean TB of high quality video streaming every month when they say unlimited bandwidth
      - Nextgrid 5y ago
        I'm sure fly by night, cheap providers do that, but there are long-term reputable providers such as OVH offering unmetered bandwidth on pretty much all their services. Are those also problematic?
  - anotherman554 5y ago
    I kickstarted a indie movie once and they just gave me a direct download link. There was no streaming involved. Supposing the movie was 5GB what do you think it would cost per download?
LegitShady 5y ago
It seems got be Rumble, but then you have to deal with the negative associations of that site (deserved or not).
sdfhbdf 5y ago
There is this one built by some edu creators from YouTube called Nebula[0] it’s part of Curiosity Stream to subscribe and to publish you probably need to contact StandardTV which are the creators behind it. [0]: https://nebula.app https://nebula.app [1]: https://standard.tv https://standard.tv

by jb1991 5y ago

pmoriarty 5y ago

PeerTube: https://joinpeertube.org/ https://joinpeertube.org/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30445497 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30445497

jb1991 5y ago
The comments in that thread are somewhat persuasive that it would not be the most appropriate choice for most video creatives.
awiesenhofer 5y ago
> https://joinpeertube.org/ https://joinpeertube.org/ That frontpage alone though... and no inplace search, it tries to open a popup to a completely different url doing the actual search, why!? If they want to be an alternative to anything make it ie. peertube.org, with integrated searching and show me the top X trending videos on the frontpage to showcase the content on the platform and suck me in!

anotherman554 5y ago

If you already have an audience you can upload a file directly to the Internet and link to it from your Patreon.

jb1991 5y ago
And where would you propose to upload it to? Video hosting is not cheap for heavy video streaming.
- Nextgrid 5y ago
  Serious question - dedicated servers/VPSes with unmetered bandwidth are still a thing. Get a few of those, point your DNS name at all of them (for redundancy & load balancing) and rsync/FTP your files to all of them. I can see this being a problem with viral, publicly-available content, but for subscription-only content the traffic patterns should be relatively predictable and capped. Am I missing something?
  - villaaston1 5y ago
    Yes, all those cheap servers and VPS with “unlimited” bandwidth have fair use policies and qos metering that will likely be very similar to vimeo’s. They certainly don’t mean TB of high quality video streaming every month when they say unlimited bandwidth
    - Nextgrid 5y ago
      I'm sure fly by night, cheap providers do that, but there are long-term reputable providers such as OVH offering unmetered bandwidth on pretty much all their services. Are those also problematic?
- anotherman554 5y ago
  I kickstarted a indie movie once and they just gave me a direct download link. There was no streaming involved. Supposing the movie was 5GB what do you think it would cost per download?

LegitShady 5y ago

It seems got be Rumble, but then you have to deal with the negative associations of that site (deserved or not).

sdfhbdf 5y ago

There is this one built by some edu creators from YouTube called Nebula[0] it’s part of Curiosity Stream to subscribe and to publish you probably need to contact StandardTV which are the creators behind it. [0]: https://nebula.app https://nebula.app [1]: https://standard.tv https://standard.tv