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How about forcing them to sign a declaration acknowledging the genocide of their government or be expelled. We know it is happening we don’t need shitty people
by 14 5y ago
How about forcing them to sign a declaration acknowledging the genocide of their government or be expelled. We know it is happening we don’t need shitty people in our country if they want to deny it.
- bko 5y agoYeah, I would be against that as well. That sounds awful, kind of like a loyalty test. It reminds me of terrible stories after 9/11 from Middle Eastern American's getting eyed suspiciously and having their loyalties questioned. Imagine being an Arab and some school making you sign something like "9/11 was bad"?
- 14 5y agoWe already have companies cut ties with Russia I don’t see this as being any different. Cut ties with people with oppressive views. Screw them is my feelings.
- simonh 5y agoEconomic sanctions are a very, very different thing from coerced 'confessions' from individuals. There are governments that engage in such practices, but they have no place in a free society.
- 14 5y agoNothing is coerced and there is no confession. If you don’t agree with the statement then just don’t go to that school. You talk about a free society but Uyghur are being rounded up and put in re-education/concentration camps that also has no place in a free society. We do agree they are being rounded up unwillingly right? A university could have a declaration of values that each student must sign. If they don’t agree with that political stance then don’t attend.
- infamouscow 5y agoEvery cent of Cornell's federal grant money would be pulled for violating the 1A rights of these students.
- simonh 5y agoOf course China is not a free society. The problem with what you suggest is, who gets to decide the political requirements on such institutions? Well, politicians will. So lovely, now we have bureaucrats and politicians deciding what must be taught, and what cannot be taught or even discussed in our educational institutions. What could possibly go wrong? The only way to prevent such dictatorial mandatory opinions in education is to have no dictated mandatory opinions. Free discourse is the only answer, and yes that means discussing abhorrent opinions and statements. The right answer to the darkness is to flood it with light.
- ComradePhil 5y agoOr the university could ask the students to take a class on how the oil rich middle eastern countries have spread their sects bundled with separatist and anti-national ideology in various countries by funding mosques for decades... and have students debate whether they agree with how it's handled in China or France or Germany. - France: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6DLKjDlORo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6DLKjDlORo - Germany: https://www.dw.com/en/battling-salafism-on-germanys-streets/a-45898250 https://www.dw.com/en/battling-salafism-on-germanys-streets/... - China: https://thediplomat.com/2014/10/chinese-salafism-and-the-saudi-connection/ https://thediplomat.com/2014/10/chinese-salafism-and-the-sau...
- simonh 5y agoI am for free speech, but also just as vehemently against compelled speech.
- AnimalMuppet 5y agoThat's consistent, because compelled speech is not free speech - more the opposite.
- infamouscow 5y agoCornell is a private university that _could_ do that, but they won't because every cent of their federal grant money would be pulled for violating 1A rights.
- cholantesh 5y agoGiven that the ICC doesn't acknowledge it, that would be a rather extreme step to take.