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It's already in Vim, where it matters, so there is no need for such a thing. First, because it may not be up to date (current version is 8.2, with 9.0 around th

It's already in Vim, where it matters, so there is no need for such a thing. First, because it may not be up to date (current version is 8.2, with 9.0 around the corner), second, because the links to the reference manual are dead.

themadturk 5y ago
Not everyone wants to sit in front of the computer and read the help file. That is, sometimes it's easier to sit down with a printout, or on a tablet, and read it like a book (or as a document with working links, which this one is). Yes, it is certainly valuable to have it right there in the editor, easy to consult at a moment's notice. But saying there's "no need" for it sounds self-absorbed; you don't need it, so neither does anyone else.
- johncoltrane 5y ago
  > Not everyone wants to sit in front of the computer and read the help file. That is, sometimes it's easier to sit down with a printout, or on a tablet, and read it like a book (or as a document with working links, which this one is). It's a hands-on tutorial. You don't "read it like a book", you follow it and do the exercises. Besides, only the internal links work, here, so there is no way to dig deeper from the comfort of your couch. > Yes, it is certainly valuable to have it right there in the editor, easy to consult at a moment's notice. No. The user manual is not something you "consult at a moment's notice". It's something you focus on, deliberately, during 1-2 hours sittings.
  - themadturk 5y ago
    > It's a hands-on tutorial. You don't "read it like a book", you follow it and do the exercises. Well, I have been known to take helpfiles like this and "read them like a book," or at least like a reference manual to a particular group of functions. > Besides, only the internal links work, here, so there is no way to dig deeper from the comfort of your couch. Internal links are exactly what I'm looking for, so I can jump from one part of the file to another, but external links in the PDF file work just fine. > No. The user manual is not something you "consult at a moment's notice". It's something you focus on, deliberately, during 1-2 hours sittings. Yes. I have consulted user manuals at a moment's notice. There doesn't seem to be much intersection between my life experience and yours.

themadturk 5y ago

Not everyone wants to sit in front of the computer and read the help file. That is, sometimes it's easier to sit down with a printout, or on a tablet, and read it like a book (or as a document with working links, which this one is). Yes, it is certainly valuable to have it right there in the editor, easy to consult at a moment's notice. But saying there's "no need" for it sounds self-absorbed; you don't need it, so neither does anyone else.

johncoltrane 5y ago
> Not everyone wants to sit in front of the computer and read the help file. That is, sometimes it's easier to sit down with a printout, or on a tablet, and read it like a book (or as a document with working links, which this one is). It's a hands-on tutorial. You don't "read it like a book", you follow it and do the exercises. Besides, only the internal links work, here, so there is no way to dig deeper from the comfort of your couch. > Yes, it is certainly valuable to have it right there in the editor, easy to consult at a moment's notice. No. The user manual is not something you "consult at a moment's notice". It's something you focus on, deliberately, during 1-2 hours sittings.
- themadturk 5y ago
  > It's a hands-on tutorial. You don't "read it like a book", you follow it and do the exercises. Well, I have been known to take helpfiles like this and "read them like a book," or at least like a reference manual to a particular group of functions. > Besides, only the internal links work, here, so there is no way to dig deeper from the comfort of your couch. Internal links are exactly what I'm looking for, so I can jump from one part of the file to another, but external links in the PDF file work just fine. > No. The user manual is not something you "consult at a moment's notice". It's something you focus on, deliberately, during 1-2 hours sittings. Yes. I have consulted user manuals at a moment's notice. There doesn't seem to be much intersection between my life experience and yours.