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Damned is the society that churns out this behavior so frequently. For every 1 that is in the news after committing a crime, there is a hundred that feels the s
by matt321 5y ago
Damned is the society that churns out this behavior so frequently. For every 1 that is in the news after committing a crime, there is a hundred that feels the same but commits no crime. Yes this problem needs attention, but a better use of resources is to find out what about society is causing this. My guess is that the parent(s) are to blame.
- arvinsim 5y agoWhatever the cause is, angry young men that can't get any are probably the easiest to radicalize. I am also interested in how this will be solved since I don't think the status quo is sustainable.
- Bancakes 5y agoModern society is over sexualized, "coomerpilled" in incel terms. Reduce onlyfans, self-objectifying gamer girls, and other bait, and the problems will disappear. This cheap surrogate dopaminogenic entertainment will wither away along with the maladapted behavior it causes.
- valar_m 5y agoAny data to support this claim? Because porn has been on the internet for far longer than the incel thing has been around.
- imwillofficial 5y agoNo it hasn’t. It just wasn’t a meme yet.
- Bancakes 5y agoPorn is not entertainment, nor a lifestyle. You can't binge watch it like Netflix or in this case, simp for young gamer girls making uwu sounds.
- LaurensBER 5y agoI lack the statistics to really get into the cause of this but perhaps this is caused by the winner takes all economy on dating apps. Perhaps sex is easier to acquire for the majority of women than ever before and increasingly difficult for the bottom n% of males or alternatively it feels this way for those men. A lack of empathy for the challenges that women face (both during their daily life's but also during dating) seems to characterise the incels as a group more than anything. Add to that a COVID crisis and uncertain economic times and this might get worse before it gets better.
- matt321 5y agoI have read that one-man one-woman was the solution thousands of years ago to deal with this exact problem. Currently, the top X% of men get all the women and the bottom (100-X)% are terrorists (according to this article).
- mywittyname 5y agoWomen used to be essentially forced by society to marry someone, and usually at a pretty young age. So many settled for shitty partners they met in high school and took drugs to cope. Now these women can have good jobs and live how they want to.
- jfengel 5y agoA good way to get into that top n% is to stop thinking of dating as an "economy". Despite all of the incel talk, women aren't out there seeking the richest and handsomest men. They're looking for somebody to connect with, and feel safe with. A huge fraction of men fail to even try to connect with women as people, instead treating them as a commodity in a market. That makes them feel unsafe, because every woman has met at least one man who wants to take that commodity by force. They never know which one it is, and they have to treat all men that way until they know otherwise. Be the guy who treats them as individuals, rather than goods, and you'll find that you rise up substantially from that bottom x%. That is the point where the incels totally lock themselves out the market they're so desperate to be in.
- arvinsim 5y ago
- nonrandomstring 5y agoThe history of wars is the history of men not getting any. Alexander the Great, a little bit short. Genghis Khan, on the ugly side. Doors wrote a song: Girl, you gotta love your man Girl, you gotta love your man Take him by the hand Make him understand The world on you depends Our life will never end Gotta love your man, yeah Those peaceniks in the 60's got few things right with their free love trip. Imagine the misery the world could have been spared if Zuckerberg could have just got laid.
- moltke 5y agoI think the free love thing in the 60s likely exacerbated this by destroying monogamy.
- fuzzer37 5y agodestroying monogamy is a good thing, tho.
- moltke 5y agoI think we're finding out now just how bad an idea destroying it was.
- fuzzer37 5y agoIn what way?
- nonrandomstring 5y ago> Destroying monogamy >> I think we're finding out now just how bad an idea destroying it was. >>> In what way? I do not wish to interrupt a pleasant conversation evolving in the replies, but think what people see as an attack on monogamy is really an attack on all human relations over the past 60 years. Parents send the kids to boot camp, kids send them to a "care home". Stressed out, underpaid teachers turn education into training for the test, students cheat and complain about their crap tutors. Bosses treat their workers as farm animals and employees see their bosses as inhuman tyrants. Everywhere extreme neoliberal individualism has atomised and alienated people from one-another. Monogamy (between any partners) is just one more casualty of this process. Divorce used to be a serious soul-searching matter. Now you can do it by SMS in your lunch break. Life partners who should love one another "In sickness and health" treat each other as economic ladders, emotional punch bags, and trophies. It's not that reification wasn't always in the air, read Jane Austen, but today that's often _all_ there is.
- cyberpunk 5y agoYou could stop giving out guns to basically the entire population....
- datavirtue 5y agoThe old testament has a litany of laws that were created to solve for this. We can probably take those off the table.
- throwaway984393 5y agoThey say it takes a village to raise a child.