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This comment is clearly written by someone who has never admitted to being wrong, or never encountered someone who had a different experience to what they under

This comment is clearly written by someone who has never admitted to being wrong, or never encountered someone who had a different experience to what they understood or assumed ;). I've done psyilocybin. Multiple times (where it's 'legal', in Amsterdam). And majored in Chemistry XD I agree, the, er, details (heh) would need to be worked out. You sound like you like to sound like you know what you talk about with hallucinogens, care to suggest a good compound, huh? :) edit: I love how I'm pushing back against the arrogant counter factual mis assumption / ad hominem in the parent, but I'm the one who gets downvoted. Anyone want to share a view on why?

hajile 5y ago
Take hallucinogens in a nice calm atmosphere and you'll generally have a nice, calm experience and maybe even gain a new perspective. Take them under stress (eg, a war) and you are almost certain to have a terrible trip with disastrous psychological effects. Not a great plan.
- graderjs 5y ago
  Good point. BUT, what if we made the "war" like an information war. So soldiers war multi-color rainbow tie-died "conceptual disruption" camo. And brought munchies and flowers, and those head-massager spiders, and shamanic drumming music...in other words, basically the "invading army" did everything in their power to make sure everyone had a f** fantastic trip, because that would make everyone more docile and just be easier. It could really revolutionize warfare. An invasion of overwhelming peace love and fun...Killing your former property rights with seductive kindness...
  - drcongo 5y ago
    Quick question, are you on any hallucinogen right now?
    - graderjs 5y ago
      Hahaha. Because my thinking is so sublime? I know right XD. See these comments (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30685171 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30685171): would love to be but no (not knowingly anyway, hah!). Yet see (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30685186 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30685186) maybe I am! Hahaha :) maybe we all are. haha Aside from all that, does beer count? I think it does right. Hops and all that. I'm 1.666 500 ML cans in.
14 5y ago
psilocybin takes a large dose to effect a person to the point of hallucinations so that is not likely to work. LSD can cause very bad trips especially when taken in a bad environment and if the person doesn’t know they have taken it. This isn’t a movie your suggestion sounds like a bad idea all around.
- graderjs 5y ago
  Surely, this is merely a technical hurdle, that we can solve through better chemistry? :)
esperent 5y ago
If you have tried hallucinogens and yet you're joking suggesting using them in an active war zone with comments like "Everybody wins" then I have to say, you seem to be severely lacking in empathy. Not to mention, while you make these flippant remarks here untold tragedy is going down in Ukraine right now and to me it seems in poor taste to trivialize it. If you have to make jokes like this, right now, maybe you could go and find somewhere else to do it? There several right wing subreddits that would be happy to have you. I was wrong in assuming you had not tried psilocybin and calling you out over it and I apologize for that - I wrongly thought that psilocybin tended to teach people empathy, hence my mistake. Thanks for the correction, I humbly accept my error.
- graderjs 5y ago
  OMG, these sort of self-righteous / play the fake victim / pretend other people are bad comments are soo boorish and dull. Please don't do that here. If you want to leap at people and make fights, take up thai bo. :) It seems the only one lacking in empathy is the one who: 1) can only concieve there's "one" way to view it, and it's their way, and they're "right", 2) wants to project / impose their biased misinterpretation on others to twistedly satisfy themselves, at the expense of others, and 3) says stuff like, "clearly that person has never" but then is totally wrong...and then doubles down...sigh. Please do that trash somewhere else.

hajile 5y ago

Take hallucinogens in a nice calm atmosphere and you'll generally have a nice, calm experience and maybe even gain a new perspective. Take them under stress (eg, a war) and you are almost certain to have a terrible trip with disastrous psychological effects. Not a great plan.

graderjs 5y ago
Good point. BUT, what if we made the "war" like an information war. So soldiers war multi-color rainbow tie-died "conceptual disruption" camo. And brought munchies and flowers, and those head-massager spiders, and shamanic drumming music...in other words, basically the "invading army" did everything in their power to make sure everyone had a f** fantastic trip, because that would make everyone more docile and just be easier. It could really revolutionize warfare. An invasion of overwhelming peace love and fun...Killing your former property rights with seductive kindness...
- drcongo 5y ago
  Quick question, are you on any hallucinogen right now?
  - graderjs 5y ago
    Hahaha. Because my thinking is so sublime? I know right XD. See these comments (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30685171 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30685171): would love to be but no (not knowingly anyway, hah!). Yet see (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30685186 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30685186) maybe I am! Hahaha :) maybe we all are. haha Aside from all that, does beer count? I think it does right. Hops and all that. I'm 1.666 500 ML cans in.

14 5y ago

psilocybin takes a large dose to effect a person to the point of hallucinations so that is not likely to work. LSD can cause very bad trips especially when taken in a bad environment and if the person doesn’t know they have taken it. This isn’t a movie your suggestion sounds like a bad idea all around.

graderjs 5y ago
Surely, this is merely a technical hurdle, that we can solve through better chemistry? :)

esperent 5y ago

If you have tried hallucinogens and yet you're joking suggesting using them in an active war zone with comments like "Everybody wins" then I have to say, you seem to be severely lacking in empathy. Not to mention, while you make these flippant remarks here untold tragedy is going down in Ukraine right now and to me it seems in poor taste to trivialize it. If you have to make jokes like this, right now, maybe you could go and find somewhere else to do it? There several right wing subreddits that would be happy to have you. I was wrong in assuming you had not tried psilocybin and calling you out over it and I apologize for that - I wrongly thought that psilocybin tended to teach people empathy, hence my mistake. Thanks for the correction, I humbly accept my error.

graderjs 5y ago
OMG, these sort of self-righteous / play the fake victim / pretend other people are bad comments are soo boorish and dull. Please don't do that here. If you want to leap at people and make fights, take up thai bo. :) It seems the only one lacking in empathy is the one who: 1) can only concieve there's "one" way to view it, and it's their way, and they're "right", 2) wants to project / impose their biased misinterpretation on others to twistedly satisfy themselves, at the expense of others, and 3) says stuff like, "clearly that person has never" but then is totally wrong...and then doubles down...sigh. Please do that trash somewhere else.