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Are you putting Haskell and Rust in the same category when it comes to likely future adoption? They seem very different to me - Haskell being unlikely to get mu

• lucasyvas 5y ago
  Same take. I don't see Haskell / Erlang / Elixir and the like truly ever taking off. It's not because they aren't awesome (because they are) - it's because what they solve isn't as desperately needed as what Rust solves. I don't feel like this aspect is debatable. Our systems are miserably insecure and unwilling to trade off performance to become more secure. Without Rust or something like it, there's no chance - that's the difference. If those here are hoping for the hype to die down, they are going to be waiting a while.
  • dimgl 5y ago
    > it's because what they solve isn't as desperately needed as what Rust solves. Undoubtedly, the issue of memory safety while remaining performant is a game-changer, but the word need is a bit strong here...
    • danuker 5y ago
      > but the word need is a bit strong here... When 52% of curl's security vulnerabilities were due to it being written in C (mostly buffer overreads/overwrites), I say "need" is indeed adequate. https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/03/09/half-of-curls-vulnerabilities-are-c-mistakes/ https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/03/09/half-of-curls-vulnera...