There's a lot of anti-antivirus sentiment in these comments, and while I, too, hate AV and have grown up with it being nothing but snake oil, I wonder if that's

There's a lot of anti-antivirus sentiment in these comments, and while I, too, hate AV and have grown up with it being nothing but snake oil, I wonder if that's still correct in the current era of "zero trust". I think we've learned that corporate firewalls and VPNs don't really work all that well. In other words, if you can't rely on a safe boundary to the outside world, how do you ensure individual corporate machines are not compromised? What about newer software like Crowdstrike? What do the big tech companies like Google, Microsoft, Meta, etc do on their employees computers? Do none of them use antivirus?