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Is it necessary to boycott private firms that didn't necessarily support the government decision? Or is there any proof that they actually played a role in curr

Is it necessary to boycott private firms that didn't necessarily support the government decision? Or is there any proof that they actually played a role in current ukraine situation?

staticassertion 5y ago
My understanding is that results from Yandex were spreading propaganda from Russia, backing up the false narrative that they hadn't done anything, or that everyone in Ukraine is a nazi, etc. Would love to hear more if anyone has information, I'm possibly misremembering. Also, private companies are an important part of a nation's economy. Restricting them surely impacts that nation, so the idea seems sound?
- tananaev 5y ago
  Yandex News are definitely in line with Russian government propaganda. It's a news aggregator, so it might look like propaganda because all popular news outlets are propaganda. Not sure if they filter anything themselves. But I think it still makes sense to put a pressure on the company anyway.
  - OrvalWintermute 5y ago
    > ...Russian government propaganda. It's a news aggregator, so it might look like propaganda because all popular news outlets are propaganda. Not sure if they filter anything themselves. But I think it still makes sense to put a pressure on the company anyway. As opposed to what Western News Media coverage on the war has turned into, aka, more Propaganda? The middle ground is not promoting our own Propaganda instead, which is what pushing everyone to Western Search Engines (Agitprop search really).
    - dagenix 5y ago
    - staticassertion 5y ago
      What propaganda? I'm sure there's bias in reporting, no question. But bias, say in support of Ukraine, is very different from saying that there's no conflict at all.
      - OrvalWintermute 5y ago
        The narrative of the war in the West is "Putin just invaded the innocent Ukrainians, killed lots of people, rah rah rah". Here are the pics of Zelensky in fatigues ready to confront the invader. The other side narrative is, "There has been an active war going on for 5+ years now following a US coup in Ukraine, and many innocent Eastern Ukrainians and ethnic Russians have been killed already. Now, Putin is invading to protect Russia's borders from broken promises over NATO spreading, and the threat of a hostile NATO near Moscow" Both sides are biased, and both sides are producing agitprop, but we're only limiting one side's access to distribute their worldview.
hedora 5y ago
Yes, it is necessary in times of war.
- forum_ghost 5y ago
  100% positive that your current jurisdiction did not declare war on Yandex.
- userbinator 5y ago
  This looks more like a "civilian casualty".
KarlKemp 5y ago
The idea is to hurt the economy as a whole. So, yes, it only works if it’s done somewhat extensively.

Is it necessary to boycott private firms that didn't necessarily support the government decision? Or is there any proof that they actually played a role in current ukraine situation?

staticassertion 5y ago

My understanding is that results from Yandex were spreading propaganda from Russia, backing up the false narrative that they hadn't done anything, or that everyone in Ukraine is a nazi, etc. Would love to hear more if anyone has information, I'm possibly misremembering. Also, private companies are an important part of a nation's economy. Restricting them surely impacts that nation, so the idea seems sound?

tananaev 5y ago
Yandex News are definitely in line with Russian government propaganda. It's a news aggregator, so it might look like propaganda because all popular news outlets are propaganda. Not sure if they filter anything themselves. But I think it still makes sense to put a pressure on the company anyway.
- OrvalWintermute 5y ago
  > ...Russian government propaganda. It's a news aggregator, so it might look like propaganda because all popular news outlets are propaganda. Not sure if they filter anything themselves. But I think it still makes sense to put a pressure on the company anyway. As opposed to what Western News Media coverage on the war has turned into, aka, more Propaganda? The middle ground is not promoting our own Propaganda instead, which is what pushing everyone to Western Search Engines (Agitprop search really).
  - dagenix 5y ago
  - staticassertion 5y ago
    What propaganda? I'm sure there's bias in reporting, no question. But bias, say in support of Ukraine, is very different from saying that there's no conflict at all.
    - OrvalWintermute 5y ago
      The narrative of the war in the West is "Putin just invaded the innocent Ukrainians, killed lots of people, rah rah rah". Here are the pics of Zelensky in fatigues ready to confront the invader. The other side narrative is, "There has been an active war going on for 5+ years now following a US coup in Ukraine, and many innocent Eastern Ukrainians and ethnic Russians have been killed already. Now, Putin is invading to protect Russia's borders from broken promises over NATO spreading, and the threat of a hostile NATO near Moscow" Both sides are biased, and both sides are producing agitprop, but we're only limiting one side's access to distribute their worldview.

hedora 5y ago

Yes, it is necessary in times of war.

forum_ghost 5y ago
100% positive that your current jurisdiction did not declare war on Yandex.
userbinator 5y ago
This looks more like a "civilian casualty".

KarlKemp 5y ago

The idea is to hurt the economy as a whole. So, yes, it only works if it’s done somewhat extensively.