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Let me repeat Firefox vision: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/VisionStatement#Product_vision_statement https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/VisionStatement#Product

by thbw 5y ago

Let me repeat Firefox vision: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/VisionStatement#Product_vision_statement https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/VisionStatement#Product_vis... > Discover, experience and connect with apps, websites and people on your own terms, everywhere. Why do you not give people choice on their own terms, everywhere?

yoasif_ 5y ago
People can use whatever search engine they want - how is that not on their own terms?
userbinator 5y ago
Mozilla has been absolutely full of corporate doublespeak for a long time. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-privacy-philosophy/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-privacy... "we develop products and advocate for best practices that put users in control of their data and online experiences." https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/celebrating-choice-control-and-independence-on-the-web/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/celebrating-cho... "We put people in control of their online experience" The page description for the Firefox main page used to say "Firefox is created by a global non-profit dedicated to putting individuals in control online", and before that, instead of "individuals" it said "users". I've quipped before that the change was because they really meant "people working at Mozilla" by "individuals". Now it's something vague about "respecting your privacy" (just like what Facebook and Google claim to do too...)
- ttybird2 5y ago
  It is also misleading because afaik Firefox is developed by Mozilla Corporation instead of the foundation. It has been mentioned before that donations to the foundation can't go into developing firefox.
busymom0 5y ago
Slightly related. I changed my default browser just today back to Safari. In Firefox, I would usually click the first two items on the home page which would be photopea or reddit. Today, they put 2 sponsored items for Amazon and Trivago instead and I accidentally clicked the amazon one without realizing because that first item was supposed to be Photopea. That was enough to piss me off. https://i.imgur.com/s7NIfCX.png https://i.imgur.com/s7NIfCX.png

by thbw 5y ago

yoasif_ 5y ago

People can use whatever search engine they want - how is that not on their own terms?

userbinator 5y ago

Mozilla has been absolutely full of corporate doublespeak for a long time. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-privacy-philosophy/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-privacy... "we develop products and advocate for best practices that put users in control of their data and online experiences." https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/celebrating-choice-control-and-independence-on-the-web/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/celebrating-cho... "We put people in control of their online experience" The page description for the Firefox main page used to say "Firefox is created by a global non-profit dedicated to putting individuals in control online", and before that, instead of "individuals" it said "users". I've quipped before that the change was because they really meant "people working at Mozilla" by "individuals". Now it's something vague about "respecting your privacy" (just like what Facebook and Google claim to do too...)

ttybird2 5y ago
It is also misleading because afaik Firefox is developed by Mozilla Corporation instead of the foundation. It has been mentioned before that donations to the foundation can't go into developing firefox.

busymom0 5y ago

Slightly related. I changed my default browser just today back to Safari. In Firefox, I would usually click the first two items on the home page which would be photopea or reddit. Today, they put 2 sponsored items for Amazon and Trivago instead and I accidentally clicked the amazon one without realizing because that first item was supposed to be Photopea. That was enough to piss me off. https://i.imgur.com/s7NIfCX.png https://i.imgur.com/s7NIfCX.png