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Just for the record, what is it that Google is paying them $500M/yr to do? I haven't installed Firefox for while, is Google the default search engine or somethi

by 37 5y ago

Just for the record, what is it that Google is paying them $500M/yr to do? I haven't installed Firefox for while, is Google the default search engine or something? edit: Upon more searching, I find passages like this: >in 2020, Mozilla Corporation’s revenue was $466 million from its search partnerships (largely driven by its search deal with Google), subscriptions and advertising revenue. [0] as well as a fine from France for 500M Euros. [0] https://techcrunch.com/2021/12/13/mozilla-expects-to-generate-more-than-500m-in-revenue-this-year/ https://techcrunch.com/2021/12/13/mozilla-expects-to-generat...

obviouslynotme 5y ago
Google pays Mozilla to exist. I wouldn't be surprised if other browsers get either checks or favors for existing. All of this is to make Google not seem like the monopoly it is.
- parineum 5y ago
  It literally isn't a browser monopoly. Whether they fund them or not, Firefox and Safari are equally useable browsers. I use Firefox as a daily driver in both desktop and mobile and have zero issues. Hell, chromium can do everything chrome can. Maybe they're a monopoly in the online advertising space but I'd argue that's simply because they're better.
  - dotcoma 5y ago
    Firefox is Mozilla‘a browser, and it would be gone tomorrow without the money they get from Google. Safari is a contender on phones, not so much on desktop.
    - parineum 5y ago
      You're considering "contender" when the word you should be using is "competitor". It's not Google's fault people prefer chrome over safari. The fact that people _can_ choose Chrome, Safari, Firefox, Chromium, Brave, etc. is what matters. As long as Google isn't doing anything anti-competitive, it's absolutely okay to dominate the market with a superior product.
- soundnote 5y ago
  Not existing, but they do buy the default spot for Safari for an allegedly lurid sum.
soundnote 5y ago
It's not just Google being the default, Firefox has search suggestions on by default too. Privacy browser sends your keystrokes to Google. So nice.

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obviouslynotme 5y ago

Google pays Mozilla to exist. I wouldn't be surprised if other browsers get either checks or favors for existing. All of this is to make Google not seem like the monopoly it is.

parineum 5y ago
It literally isn't a browser monopoly. Whether they fund them or not, Firefox and Safari are equally useable browsers. I use Firefox as a daily driver in both desktop and mobile and have zero issues. Hell, chromium can do everything chrome can. Maybe they're a monopoly in the online advertising space but I'd argue that's simply because they're better.
- dotcoma 5y ago
  Firefox is Mozilla‘a browser, and it would be gone tomorrow without the money they get from Google. Safari is a contender on phones, not so much on desktop.
  - parineum 5y ago
    You're considering "contender" when the word you should be using is "competitor". It's not Google's fault people prefer chrome over safari. The fact that people _can_ choose Chrome, Safari, Firefox, Chromium, Brave, etc. is what matters. As long as Google isn't doing anything anti-competitive, it's absolutely okay to dominate the market with a superior product.
soundnote 5y ago
Not existing, but they do buy the default spot for Safari for an allegedly lurid sum.

soundnote 5y ago

It's not just Google being the default, Firefox has search suggestions on by default too. Privacy browser sends your keystrokes to Google. So nice.