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It was not “just not included”, it was removed for everyone, no matter whether they wanted to use it or not. Maybe lizardmen from Mozilla are so detached they c

It was not “just not included”, it was removed for everyone, no matter whether they wanted to use it or not. Maybe lizardmen from Mozilla are so detached they consider that all users just suck up and eat what's on the plate today, but some regular people use Yandex search because they have mail there, keep themselves logged in, have configured other services, need something for their work daily, yada yada. So they open the browser and see a tiny panel stating “FUCK YOU”. And it's not tech-savvy users (responding with “fuck you too” and fixing the problem) who get bitten and poached, it's the regular people. There is a reason to think the actual goal of all that radio silence was preventing people from trivially switching to Yandex manually in advance of the change.

bastawhiz 5y ago
OpenSearch is a standard. Visit Yandex in Firefox today, and you'll see Firefox happily offer to add Yandex to your search dropdown. The green plus shows you that it's an option. https://imgur.com/BVlfEIz https://imgur.com/BVlfEIz It's also in the right click menu for the address bar. Why does Mozilla need to include Yandex as a default option?
- ogurechny 5y ago
  I know that. The whole thing started for me today when I advised a user on some web forum this exact way of bringing it back. Then, out of interest, I dug into the code and the bug tracker, only to find that absolutely nothing was stated about the changes, even though they have been cooking for a month¹. My first real browser was steel-gray Mozilla Suite, back then I opened as many forum topics in tabs as it was possible during a free promotional 5 minute modem connection. The problem is not inclusion by default, the problem is unwarranted unconditional removal, whether it is default or not, and whether it is needed or not. Mozilla has decided the pretend it happened “by itself”, but it was their decision, and they had an option to switch people to non-sponsored Yandex search. ¹) http://web.archive.org/web/*/https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-engine-removal http://web.archive.org/web/*/https://support.mozilla.org/en-...

bastawhiz 5y ago

OpenSearch is a standard. Visit Yandex in Firefox today, and you'll see Firefox happily offer to add Yandex to your search dropdown. The green plus shows you that it's an option. https://imgur.com/BVlfEIz https://imgur.com/BVlfEIz It's also in the right click menu for the address bar. Why does Mozilla need to include Yandex as a default option?

ogurechny 5y ago
I know that. The whole thing started for me today when I advised a user on some web forum this exact way of bringing it back. Then, out of interest, I dug into the code and the bug tracker, only to find that absolutely nothing was stated about the changes, even though they have been cooking for a month¹. My first real browser was steel-gray Mozilla Suite, back then I opened as many forum topics in tabs as it was possible during a free promotional 5 minute modem connection. The problem is not inclusion by default, the problem is unwarranted unconditional removal, whether it is default or not, and whether it is needed or not. Mozilla has decided the pretend it happened “by itself”, but it was their decision, and they had an option to switch people to non-sponsored Yandex search. ¹) http://web.archive.org/web/*/https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-engine-removal http://web.archive.org/web/*/https://support.mozilla.org/en-...