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I regret that the computing experience in 2022 has to be so atrocious. But it is necessary to understand that general computing has its limit when the user does

I regret that the computing experience in 2022 has to be so atrocious. But it is necessary to understand that general computing has its limit when the user does not want to make the effort to have independence [to educate themselves on the operation of a von Neumann machine]. There is a whole GNU/Linux ecosystem [as well as a few others], mature and reliable. I even feel sorry for the user who, for one reason or another, prefers to be spoon fed by the Windows system. As you can see, there is a price to pay for the convenience of ignorance [hey, everybody uses Windows!]. Or it may be that general computing, the noble goal of bringing computing for the masses, is just an illusion, and cannot be done without gatekeepers like MS.

zeruch 5y ago
"I regret that the computing experience in 2022 has to be so atrocious." The industry builds what the industry wants.
- t-writescode 5y ago
  The populous tolerates what the (edit: duopolies) force-feed them.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
  Precisely. Developers hate users because users are the ones who want them to do things like fix bugs and make software reliable, which isn't as fun as cramming in new features and rewriting things in new languages and frameworks. Even open source software suffers from this, just look at GNOME.
jawilson2 5y ago
So, I'm building a gaming PC for my kids. One of them started playing fortnite with his friends during covid, to keep in touch. He would like it on the gaming PC. Fortnite does not run on Linux. What do you suggest? If it helps, I have been personally running linux since 2002 or so, starting with Slackware, then Gentoo, then back and forth from Arch to Ubuntu. I am a developer and use linux daily. I would love to hear what I should use instead of windows.
- cydmax 5y ago
  Build them a PC with Linux to learn what you have learned about it. And buy a PS5 for Fortnite. Other popular games are released cross platform anyways. Consoles are much easier to handle in the long run. Their business model is less intrusive…
- akagusu 5y ago
  > Fortnite does not run on Linux. What do you suggest? Don't play Fortnite. Skip the game that was designed to rip off your money instead of entertaining your kids, and teach your kids something useful like programming their own games.
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
    On the one hand, I want to downvote you for the typical "change your usecase" response, but on the other hand Fortnite and its ilk are designed to be addictive and rip people off and reducing their influence in your kids' life is probably a good idea.

zeruch 5y ago

"I regret that the computing experience in 2022 has to be so atrocious." The industry builds what the industry wants.

t-writescode 5y ago
The populous tolerates what the (edit: duopolies) force-feed them.
AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
Precisely. Developers hate users because users are the ones who want them to do things like fix bugs and make software reliable, which isn't as fun as cramming in new features and rewriting things in new languages and frameworks. Even open source software suffers from this, just look at GNOME.

jawilson2 5y ago

So, I'm building a gaming PC for my kids. One of them started playing fortnite with his friends during covid, to keep in touch. He would like it on the gaming PC. Fortnite does not run on Linux. What do you suggest? If it helps, I have been personally running linux since 2002 or so, starting with Slackware, then Gentoo, then back and forth from Arch to Ubuntu. I am a developer and use linux daily. I would love to hear what I should use instead of windows.

cydmax 5y ago
Build them a PC with Linux to learn what you have learned about it. And buy a PS5 for Fortnite. Other popular games are released cross platform anyways. Consoles are much easier to handle in the long run. Their business model is less intrusive…
akagusu 5y ago
> Fortnite does not run on Linux. What do you suggest? Don't play Fortnite. Skip the game that was designed to rip off your money instead of entertaining your kids, and teach your kids something useful like programming their own games.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
  On the one hand, I want to downvote you for the typical "change your usecase" response, but on the other hand Fortnite and its ilk are designed to be addictive and rip people off and reducing their influence in your kids' life is probably a good idea.