> This doesn't explain vandalism, joyriding, or kleptomania. These are pretty minor crimes lol I'll be really happy if we get to a point where we have to worry

> This doesn't explain vandalism, joyriding, or kleptomania. These are pretty minor crimes lol I'll be really happy if we get to a point where we have to worry about these things. > But have you considered that some people realize theft is an easier alternative to being gainfully employed? I mean, yes, I've considered it. I dismissed it because it's sort of idiotic. Is it better than working a job with no healthcare, benefits, a minimum wage, and the chance to be fired at any time with no safety nets? Sure, yeah. We should fix that. > why can't you recognize that crime is lucrative and a preferable alternative for these people? We both agree that crime is preferable for some people. We just disagree about why. > Their conscience doesn't bother them like it would for you and I. Years of living in an abusive society, learning that crime is a survival mechanism, etc, will naturally do that to anyone.